J.T.: . . . . Tue, Jun 15, 12:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just have to have the first post on the new log. Nothing to add, but the collarbone is healing...albeit slowly. Back to biking indoors, but no more running or swimming for 2-3 more weeks yet. Planning to try an easy skate tonight though.....

Robert_skalski@Vanguard.com: . . . . Tue, Jun 15, 1:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hello out there... My 8 year old son got the bug early this year and got it bad. He hasn't taken off his Franklin Street Hockey gear since his birthday in Feb. We play on the ice at the Coyote's Den in Arizona. He's gotten in the nets for 3 games so far and he got the nod for 2 more this weekend. He's got decent fundamentals for an 8 year old, but is hungry for tips and techniques. I try my best to help, but I'm just a dumb defenceman. If any of you "old pros" out there have any basic goaltending tips that you can forward our way, "The Ryanator" and I would love it. Thanks.

Grass: . . . . Tue, Jun 15, 3:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Robert -- I don't qualify as 'pro' but am over qualified as 'old' so take this advice for what it is worth... Encourage young Ryan to keep up his skating skills and enjoy the game.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Jun 15, 5:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Vile, i agree, last night i had what i thought was a horrible game... let in four reletively soft goals.... hang your head in shame type goals.... 2 five hole..... but when the game was on the line (OT) i made the saves i had to... I always thought teams got more conservative in OT... i faced four 2 on 0 breakaways in the 5 minute OT... we won with 16 seconds left in overtime when my teammate threw the puck into a scrum in front of the net and it went off the defenseman and past the goalie... i actually felt kind of bad for him.... but we got the win and the soft goals were magically forgotten

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Jun 15, 5:09PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Robert... a couple of tips.... i once went to a free agent camp and the evaluator put it very well... work on your stickhandling... a goalie has to handle the puck very well... also, the stronger a skater a goalie is the better... and for the ryanator.... don't try too hard to become your favorite nhl goalie.... take from their style what feels comfortable and works for you.... and remember, it is never too early to develop those interesting superstitions that confirm to your teammates that you are certifiably insane.... have fun and don't let goals get you down... use them as a learning experience.... getting kind of long winded here, but Robert.. another nice tool for Ryan is being able to see what he did that works in a game and what doesn't.... Camcorders are indespensible...

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
dude I'm back!!!!!!!!!

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It has been almost 7 or 8 months since I have been to this page! Man I never thought I would find it again!

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
If Smott is still around I want to say hello and sorry I lost contact but life has been busy busy busy! Senior year of high school is right around the corner!

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
wow, I'll pop back later to see if anyone shows up =)

smott: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey TW what up??

smott: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And for Ryan, yep keep up those skating skills, especially backwards skating. Hands up, square to the puck! Have fun, what else can we tell an 8-yr old future pro??

smott: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm Sabres make the most of a couple of rare Dallas muffs and we have a 2-2 series! They did play with lots of emotion last night eh? But they still need to get more shots on Eddie.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Weel here's my Shellack/Week entry, an 11-1 thrashing at the hands of a "B" team new to our league that picked up a few of the kids from Penn State now that school is out, including their goalie who was great (cut up the crease something awful with his skates BTW, never saw such deep skulling grooves from goalie skates). My gas tank is still rather low unfortunately. Gave up 1 goal the first 30 minutes, and, um, 10 the last 30. And there you have it.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey, the Wall, nice to hear from you again.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
That was an incredible save Belfour had on Satan. Where he twists around to snap the stick down in front of the shot.

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 8:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah hi Smott =) How's it going?

Buckeye: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 8:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm a college student at Ohio State Univ and I've been playing low level intramural hockey for a couple quarters. I love it and I've been playing goal. The equipment they give you at the rink is terrible, I have to duct tape the pads to my legs cause there isn't any straps. Does anyone have suggestions on how I could get some used/very cheap gear?

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 10:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Do they have "play it again" sports in Columbus, Buckeye? You might find some old gear there.

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 6:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah... ya'd think they could have enough manners to get Eddie some lemonade and a chair for that 3rd period...maybe a deck of cards. 3 shots? Tell ya though, he was very, very good on Tuesday. Just not as good as Daaaaahmer.

: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 6:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I used to play intramurals too and it really depends on how low level/cheap you want to get...heck, there's always Mylec plastic leg pads for about $50...

RocketGoalie: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 6:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
that was me...

RocketGoalie: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 6:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
But if you want equipment that's more comfortable and actually helps your play, try The Sports Exchange at button They've got some good stuff there are reasonable prices...although I don't know if much of it's cheap enough. Play It Again's always been pretty good for me too. It's tough getting used equipment...of course I see Carpe de Puck selling stuff...heheh...

C5: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just wanted to remind everyone that the goalie picture page is updated all the way up to the beginning of the Stanley Cup Finals, you can see it here at this button

C5: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 7:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hasek's comments in the newspaper reminded me of Patrick Roy's comments in '97-- only Wah's comments flopped, serving only to galvanize the Wings! Let's hope the Sabres can get by without Dallas' mistakes this next game!

deke: . . . . Wed, Jun 16, 9:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Smott: The shellacking sounds familiar. Funny how it goes, I played last weekend with a really weak team in a seniors tournament against a team with 3-4 former NHL'ers and lose 11-1. There had to have been 65-70 shots. Then go out last night for 1st summer league game and stand around most of the night while we beat this team like a drum. Stopped keeping score when we got to 20.

Buckeye: . . . . Thu, Jun 17, 7:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for the advice guys. There is Play It Again Sports here. I think I'll give them a call and see what they've got and at least tell em to give me a call if they get any goalie equimpent in. Hopefully, they'll do that.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jun 17, 1:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Got a neat surprise today gang. Was checking out the Miska web site to see what was new and what do you know....theres my mask!! For those interested in seeing my new mask design click on this button

wolfman: . . . . Thu, Jun 17, 4:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP awesome design. Seive do you want me to send you the pics to forward them to C5? It is the scanner that is messing up.

Ryanator's Dad: . . . . Thu, Jun 17, 4:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for all the advice for The Ryanator. So blocking shots has nothing to do with it eh? Its just a matter of skating? I can see where that is important for a goalie who is about 4 feet tall....its a couple of strides getting from one post to the other! I'm going to film his 2 games this weekend and we'll have a video session. Thanks again.

snowman: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 6:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cdp- that is one fantastic looking paintjob. Your own basic idea?

Vile: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 7:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wow, this has really been a great NHL finals.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 7:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The games are all so close... and intense. Better thqan a sweep, or blowouts, that's for sure. But is more than 3 dang shots a period too much to ask for, for crying out loud?? Or am I just getting grouchy in my old age?

Papillom: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 9:32AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Guys, I know this going to sound like a really lame question, but I haven't been playing that long, so please forgive me. Can someone tell me what the handed-ness (right handed/left handed) of a shooter means? Is it that the handed-ness refers to hand at the top of the stick?

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 9:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
damn it, I can't even spell my name correctly, what chance do I have of working out my left handedness from my right. ;-)

Vile: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 9:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I believe shooter handedness is the bottom hand. The bottom hand is the power, while the top is mainly the pivot.

Sieve: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 11:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi gang, Does anyone know if Adult Rec. hockey exsists in Florida? Looks like I might be relocating to Ft. Pierce area. Great job, but major bummer if no ice... Pap, if stick blade is left of skates shooter is lefty.

Sieve: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 11:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
BTW, 2-0 in summer so far. Having fun in the heat...

Vile: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 12:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
There is a good amount of ice in Orlando and Miami, I imagine there would be some in Tampa as well, but I have no idea about Ft Pierce. Roller is very popular which usually leads to some ice as well.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 1:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Snowman the idea was a combo of Todd's design and what I wanted. We spent a lot of time on the phone and internet talking about specifics. He is one great guy and a fantastic artist. The handedness thing breaks down like this. From the players perspective: blade of stick to the right=right handed shooter and vice versa. This is important when your faced with a shooter with the puck. Depending on where that player is on the ice, there are some limitations as to what he can do(shoot, pass etc). This allows you to determine if you should expect a shot or whether you can work on being where the puck is going to be based apon the options available to the shooter.

z-man: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 3:09PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Another question out of curiosity on the handedness: I am right handed, but used a lefty stick even before I played goal. Now, of course, I use a lefty stick because I catch with my left hand. Are there just not many lefty goalies, or do many lefty goalies catch with the left hand anyway? My dad, a lefty, caught left and threw right in baseball. I couldn't throw with my left arm farther than a foot!

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 3:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man there are some people who are contrary to what might be thought. My father is a lefty goalie(catches with the right hand) but he shoots right with a player stick, he is also left handed. I have also found people new to the sport who are right handed but prefer to shoot left. There really is no black and white concrete answer to "why" that I can figure out.

J37: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 4:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anybody know of any other mask-painters other than Todd? I tried to go thru him but too much $$$ He wanted like $750+ for my idea. I'm thinking about going to VooDoo Air. Tell me what you think about the Spiderman Mask Design on page 2. A HREF="voodooair.com"/A

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 6:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
J37 did you talk to Todd about your idea on the phone? Having delt with Todd I know that the top of the line paint job is in the $500 range not counting what you'd pay for a Chrome/gold/ Titanium cage. If he quoted you 750 then your idea is very complicated and I doubt you can find anybody else who will produce your idea to the quality Todd is capable of. I can turn you on to a few sites that may be of interest to you but I don't know if they will be any cheaper. Check out Bishop designs at this button

BVW: . . . . Fri, Jun 18, 7:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all. I starting chatting here from my work internet, however when the page changed location I could no longer connect. Probably something with the corporate firewall. I've now got internet access at home and can now access this page. I'm from Belleville, Ontario Canada and have wanted to be a goalie all my life but never knew if I'd be good enough. I actually started at age 37 with some substandard equipment and upgraded when I found I didn't totally stink up the joint (the almost broken fingers helped in making that decision). I have been upgrading certain items every year and this year I'm looking at a new chest protector. Mine is only a couple of years old but I find I get hit too much where the equipment doesn't protect properly. Any one have a suggestion on a good protector with lots of padding (especially on the bottom of your arm between the wrist and elbow).

deke: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 0:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
BVW: Check out Brown c/a combination, I bought one a year ago, and it's the best pad I've used. Garner's in Barrie is a good source.

C5: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 10:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP that is one awesome mask.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 2:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 thanks. I just wish the photos did more justice and showed more detail. If you think it looks good in the photos you should see it in person. Todd threw in some micro glitter into the flames and when the light catches it the look is awesome.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 2:24PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does anyone have any info on the hespler stick that has a dual lie? I saw it in the SFSL catalog and was wondering how it can have a dual lie. Is this another version of the curtis curve?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 2:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
BVW, Garners is a good place to buy. I got my R6 C/A there for a steal compared to what you'd pay elsewhere.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 11:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!! DALLAS TAKES THE CUP

deke: . . . . Sat, Jun 19, 11:21PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wow! What a Cup finals. I was pulling for Buffalo tonight just so there would be another game, then I realized there was another game, they just played them both tonight. Great series, with or without controversy over the final goal, however, as good as Nieuwendyk played, no way Dallas wins without Belfour. Without doubt, Eddie deserved the Conn Smythe.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 0:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
This day will live an infamy..... That goal should not have counted. The NHL is just covering their ass..... It's really sickening when you think about it and it's sad at the same time...... After looking at the goal many times, under the rule, the goal should not have counted..... If that goal was scored in regulation, they would have reviewed it. But how do you review a goal with 200 people on the ice..... Anyways. I feel terrible for the Buffalo Sabres and for all hockey fans..... Because they just got cheated.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 7:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, you are wrong, the rule was read over the air and it stated that (sic)the man with the puck can be in the crease so long as he is in control of the puck. Such was the case last night with Hull. Since all the controversy over" man in the crease" the league has implemented several new rules in an ammendment to the rule book that was given to everyone during the season. Last night was an example of one of the new rules being exercised. Like it or not, that is how it is.

Tripp: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 8:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well...gotta hand it to Eddie. Like I said, I've alwys been a Belfour fan (he sent me an auto'd poster after my surgery, and Dom signed me a stick. I'll send pics to C5 along with my mask pics once I get my scanner next week), but it's really nice to see him get that monkey off his back, outduel the world's best goalie (after smottsie, of course), and get some respect. And what idiot chatster was whining about Dallas giviving up too few shots in this series?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 8:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Having just read the rec hockey posts I have to wonder about the intelligence levels of my fellow man. First lets look at this "man in the crease" issue. The Sabres wanted a ruling on the goal almost immediately and kept press out of the locker room until they had an answer. Second, as adults think about this, you have a legitimate question about a ruling that is very important. Are you going to believe blindly what the officials are telling you or are you going to ask to see it in black and white? Since most of use aren't in the NHL league loop, we probably don't have any idea about the ammended rules or additions to the rule book unless it is brought up during a game. I'm sure that Buffalo asked to see the rule in black and white and have the goal explained. Regardless of how anyone views the rule the bottom line is that this rule wasn't just made up at a moments notice to cover anyones mistake, it was a rule that was established and part of the game.If it was just "pulled out of the hat" I'm sure Buffalo would be the first to wave the BS flag. Weather anyone in Buffalo's camp knew of this rules exsistence, even though it's in the rule book, is another question. It pays to read the fine print sometimes

snowman: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 10:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
What a game........what a series!!! Nothing like a small controversy to end it all. The old "in the crease rule", they say they will be updating the rule for the upcoming season. All I can say is, the more something changes the more it stays the same. There will still be questions and arguments no matter what. Hats off to the Stars for a great season and Belfour finally has his monkey off his back (although no Conn Smythe)

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 10:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck...... Brett Hull didn't have "full control" over the puck. When you look at the replay the puck went off of Hasek and a Sabres skate. Tell me how a player can have control when it's bouncing all over the place? It is a shame really. When you listen to Larry Ruff's comments, he is right on the money.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 1:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Your definition of "Full control" obvisouly isn't the same as the league officials. If you watch the video carefully you will see that it was off of Hull's own skate, which he later kicked to the blade of his stick. According to Brian Lewis(NHL officials supervisor) Hull's goal counted.The rule states : " A puck that rebounds off the goalie, the goal post, an opposing player, is not deemed to be a change of possession." Lewis said "Therefore, Hull would be deemed to be in control of the puck, allowed to shoot and score a goal, even though the one foot would be in the crease in advance of the puck." End quote. Not everyone agrees with this nor will they come to terms with it but it's the way it is and it's now history.

Beatts: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 7:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hehehe, Sorry Buffalo fans but I was estatic to see Hull's goal go in. (BTW, That goal WOULD have been called back during any regular season game...Actually, there have been quite a few goals pretty-much the same that have been called back..) I don't care what the "rulemakers" are saying now. I may ruffle a few chatsters feathers by saying this but I hope Hasek NEVER wins a cup. I'm sooo turned off by his antics (i.e. whining, blah blah blah) Remember, this is just my personal opinion so please don't berate me for saying it.

Beatts: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 7:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
the soapbox is now vacant....

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 7:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck..... Are you sure you aren't Brian Lewis in disguise? The fact is they didn't review it on the ice which is unfair. The Sabres have a right to be upset, they got cheated. Plain and simple. You are right about one thing. It's history, yet it will be remembered. I still stand by what I have said. Hull was not in control, his foot was in the crease and the Sabres and the fans of hockey were cheated. The Stars victory is bogus. Maybe one day they'll EARN the Stanley Cup.

smott: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 9:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys and congrats all STars fans, the Cup lives in Dallas this year.

smott: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 9:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Much as I am not an Eddie fan, he was there when he needed to be (and so wer ethe posts, again!).

smott: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 9:31PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And thanks to CdP for the statement of the rule....regardless of the verbage however it's hard for me to say that Hull was in control of that puck. So, hmmmm.

smott: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 9:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
For moi, chalk up my first post-chemo win tonight, 7-6 in a rather ugly encounter. But no complaints, a win's a win!

smott: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 9:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
TRIPPSTER HOWZIT GOIN'????

Toast: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 10:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Okay...humble opinions of mine. First of all, like or not how the rule is written...that goal has to count. Yes, I know several were called back like it during the regular season, but it is a crappy rule as currently applied. However, it is ironic though, I seem to remember Dallas losing an OT game a year or two ago to Edmonton with an Oiler in the crease during OT. Next, the Conn Smyth. Sorry folks, Newie is my choice. Eddie played well, but hey - six game winners in one post season. I think too often the goalie gets the Conn Smyth (see Vernon in '97 - I thought that was Vladi's), it should take a superlative performance ala Bernie in '73 & '74, or Dryden in '70. BTW, am I the only one not impressed by his stick save in game four? I am sure we have all made that one a few times, blindly putting the paddle down while swimming in desperation. Hmmm...maybe I am just being sour.

Toast: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 10:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
However, the best team won the Cup - no doubt. Enjoy it while you can though - I still think the NHL is headed for an implosion. Current CBA goes to '04, I think a financial crisis is coming before then.

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Jun 20, 11:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, got taught a graphic lesson tonight... Never, ever, turn your head even a little when a shot is coming in.... Rising slap shot, raised shoulder to block it, in the process turning my head slightly.... well, guess what.... when you lift your shoulder, those plexiglass throat protectors move up too.. took the shot clean just to the right of the adams apple.... i think i know what it feels like to be shot.... luckily, the puck fell into my glove, because i was down and nonfunctional.... now my voice is just a little bit deeper.... never again..... flinching gets you hurt..... also, belfours stick save wasnt that great.... maybe someone should teach satan how to lift the puck 4 inches.... Also, with all the crap officials have been taking about the in the crease rule, you would think that the league would provide these secret rule amendments and video examples to the networks broadcasting the games... There would have been less crying all around if Bill Clement, Gary Thorne, Darren Pang, Brian Engblom, Barry Melrose, John Saunders, and Steve Levy had know of the amendments... They could have informed the viewing public of the rule and not spent all that time talking about the controversy and how the goal shouldn't have counted... Good goal or not, it is over.... and the NHL's worst nightmare came true with the whole world watching

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 3:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sports, like life, sometimes can seem unfair and one sided. We've all been the victim of a bad call or decision once or twice in our lifetime. The bottom line is you SUCK IT UP AND DRIVE ON. You don't stand around sniviling like a child on the playground who thinks everyone isn't playing fair. LIVE IN THE NOW!!!

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 3:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
gbfreeman, hope the throat is alright. Did you have it checked out at the hospital at all? I'm sure thats going to leave a mark or two, ya should get some pictures for good measure, that way you can show them to the guys at the bar. It could go something like this " So you got your foot caught under a lawn mower, any idiot can do that. You really want to see a manly battle scar check theses out (pull out pictures) then wait for the beers to flow in. Seriously, I hope your alright. If you have problems swallowing or difficulty breathing after a few days you should go get checked out.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 6:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all.... i agree with CdP and Toast.. nothing else could be said, I am though happy for Eddie he played a hell of a series, plus his added bonus after the rumors that he would be unprotected in the expansion draft... Turek gets traded to St. Loo to give Fuhr fits... on a side note, any of our brethren from up north know when the Tickets for the All Star game go on sale? am planning a pilgrimage... :)

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 7:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
First of all...good luck on tix in T.O., those will be tough to get. As for the throat shot, I took one of those a few years ago, lost my voice for a few days, took about three weeks to come back. Actually, it never did come all the way back, it is slightly deeper than before. I got nailed without a plastic guard though...

J.T.: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 7:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As much as it pains me to see Dallas win the cup, there's no doubt Eddie was brilliant, and came through when he needed to. Having grown up in Minnesota, it's tough seeing the team that stunk when I was a kid move to the sunbelt and win the cup....however, it was great hockey to watch.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 7:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Lo all back from a weeks trek in smoggy LA ((Cough, Cough)) and I'll chime in on the big controversy... I think the whole ordeal was made worse by the fact that in every pre-game, you got the sense that the comentators all wanted Dallas to win the cup.... Talking about how they were bounced by cujo 2 yrs ago and by the wings last year, and how this was a three year culmination of all their efforts. Well the NHL and the comentators got what they wanted.... the cup in the south (see current expansion and team movment) the great Brett "ME..ME..ME" Hull finally following in his fathers footsteps..... Now take the "rule change" into perspective for a goalie.... So a player can enter the crease before the puck if he has the last "posession" (SP) of the puck.... So On a break away then can he drop it a little behind himself.... play fullback for the puck and just plow the tender into the back of the net then the puck follows him in???? Come on guys a rule is a rule... Granted my example is extreem but by this new rule the player still has "control" of the puck.. Congrats to Dallas great year.... Buffalo congrats great year but it sux to be you... NHL have a spine next time plaese... Note the "*" in place and move on.... Rhodes gone to min I think... Turek to St Lu... Who else is on the move?

Vile: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 9:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
When the Supervisor of officials comes on and says its a freaking goal... I think you can let it drop. I personally can't believe how messed up Hull is, no MCL and two blown groins.

Vile: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I also think too many people are convinced there was never a review, just because they didn't see the refs confering by the penalty box.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Here's something from Al Strachan of the Toronto Sun: Unfortunately for the National Hockey League, millions of people who don't know the rules, including many in the media and apparently every radio personality in the United States, somehow saw the goal as tainted because Hull's foot was in the crease. But there should have been no controversy whatsoever. When Hull first kicked the rebound on to his stick, he had neither foot in the crease. At the instant he kicked the puck, he became in control of it. It was only in the follow-through of that kick that his left foot moved into the crease. The control began as soon as his skate blade touched the puck, and once you're in control, you can plant both feet in the crease and sing the modern major-general's song from Pirates of Penzance before scoring if you want to. The fact that goals were waved off during the season because of skate tips in the crease is totally irrelevant. They were never the skate tips of the puck carrier. By moving the puck from his skate to his stick, Hull became the puck carrier. He was in control, and if you're in control, you can take the puck into the crease, just as you can precede the puck over blue line without being offside.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
This goal wouldn't have counted before the rule amendments March 25th. The goal shouldn't be tainted...but it will be because people don't know the rules.

Vile: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
BVM, I am in a very similar situation. I looked at the Brown C/A from Garner's and you can't go wrong with it. But I have decided on the Battram C/A. Which is the same price as the top of Brown. The Battram is custom, and I am sure you could email or call Scott and talk about it with him.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Personally, I thought it was a bad goal when I saw it and after all the announcers and news people got ahold of it I was convinced it was...but after hearing about the rule amendments (which I still want to see for myself), I think it was a legit goal.

Vile: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Nicely said Rocketgoalie :)

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As far as possession of the puck...it's not defined as being "in control" of the puck. Rule 70 (c): "The player last touched by the puck shall be deemed to be in possession. Rebounds off goalkeeper's pads or other equipment shall not be considered as a change of possession..." Heck, if control was part of possession, I'd NEVER have "possession" of a puck unless I had it in my glove...heheh

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks Vile...by the way, I've got to replace my R5 in the next year or so and I've decided I'll probably get a Battram (to match my pads and gloves...). Have you gotten yours yet?

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
All that said, I think it's a shame the Stars' Cup win will be tainted. Like it or not, there will be ALOT of people who will NEVER see it as a clean goal (because they don't know the rules) and that'll taint it.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Of course, I'm also in the minority for thinking the "in the crease" rule is good for the game because it keeps goalies from getting steamrolled. Hasek had a great quote after the game that he likes the rule because there are fewer high speed collisions. I remember before this rule that goalies were constantly getting run into and it was part of alot of teams' strategies...beat up the opposing goalie until you know him off his game or hurt him. Personally, I think that's bad for the game, not good. I like watching great goalies play great. I don't care to watch Dave Manson crash into Mike Vernon, knocking him out of action for 2 months or Nick Kypreos ruin St. Louis' playoff chances by running into Fuhr and tearing his knee. I like the "no harm, no foul" rule as long as they really call it when there is harm...that's the way the rule used to be but they changed it because the refs never called it!!

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 10:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...and now I'm off my soapbox...

Vile: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 11:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
No, unfortunately deciding on which C/A to buy is a lot easier than paying for it. I hope to get it before I start Fall C league.

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Jun 21, 5:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Going pretty well smottsie. Did my e-mail get through?...back to eating solid foods after my little setback a few weeks ago. No more soup and ice cream for awhile! Totally wolfed down the largest, sloppiest Philly cheesesteak and fries I could get my mitts on. Congrats on the win. A 7-6 win beats a 2-1 loss anyday! Right Dom? And yeah, the goal may have been a little controversial..but the Cup stays in Dallas no matter what. Congrats. Life goes on.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 6:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Got lucky on the location of the throat shot.... a little left and up and hospital would have definitely been in the cards.... as it is the voice is almost back to normal and the spot that it hit is just a little tender.... oh, i believe it was Rhodes to Atlanta as their first player ever... I know Atlanta starts play this year... what about Minnesota and Columbus.... well with Atlanta they got high temps, and columbus gives them flat land and boredom... maybe go for all in one location and base the next team in Yuma.... or here is a unique idea.... how about giving the islanders to Winnipeg or Quebec.... sort of a "We're sorry for ruining your sport and taking your teams"

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 7:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Dunno if they would want the islanders though....LOL

Vile: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 8:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Columbus and Minnesota both start 2000-2001. So we have yet another expansion draft to worry about next summer.

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 9:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah... Rhodes is an Atlanta Thrasher. Get ready to see the biscuits, Damian. Could be a real busy season. St. Louis got Turek, too. I think all it took was a 3rc round draft pick. He could be a really good pick up for St. Lou, in my opinion.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 10:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Agreed on the turek pickup to st lu.... And dallas has another guy almost ready with a similar name i believe.... USA today had a good shot of "the Goal" yeaterday. Like I said it sux to be buffalo.. Couple of feildgoal misses at the end of football games and now the goal that is, or shouldn't have been, or might have been... or whatever.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 10:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
RG, great work, thanks for all the research, your comments really added to the chat for sure. Toast, as everyone knows, I'm a huge Vernon fan, but I thought I'd also say that I agree with you 100% that Vladi should have gotten the Conn Smythe, not Vernon. Vernon did his job, played solid, solid goaltending, which is more than you get from some goalies in clutch situations, but IMHO, the Conn Smythe should go to players who were the difference. I thought it was a toss-up between Newy and Modano, with all his face-off wins and the way he QB'd the games, but he was silent for a few games there. Newy deserved it 100%. Belfour, like Vernon, just did his job-- splendidly.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 10:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
A full-color, even better shot of that goal will be on my picture page in a few days. Till then, check out the rest of the playoffs at this button

charge: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 7:17PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Looking for good web sites for goal equip. Mostly interested in looking at for a new blocker

Scoop: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 7:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all..... just checking in, been awhile. Well the Stars get the cup. I was suprised that they made it by Colorado earlier in the playoffs. Anyway.... there are those that say Belfour "won" the cup, I have a hard time thinking that Hasek "lost" the cup. I think both goalies did a heckuva job. With that said, Turek traded to St. Louis within hours of the victory. I think he is next years starter for the Blues. comments are welcome....

deke: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 9:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 - Gotta disagree with you on the Conn Smythe. There's no way one can say Belfour just did his job, any more than one can say the same about Newie or Modano. Certainly all played outstanding hockey and contributed to bringing the cup to Dallas. However, Belfour's goals against is the reason for the finals win, end of story. Seems to me that bypassing Eddie for the C.S. is as bad a call as going to four on four in overtime next year. Who makes these decisions?

Toast: . . . . Tue, Jun 22, 10:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Um...Conn Smyth is voted on by a panel of 15 sportswriters from different NHL cities. Goes to the most valuable player. IMHO, insert anyone of a number of NHL goalies on Dallas, they win the Cup. Without Newie, well...see the last two playoff years. Six game winners ties a record.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 4:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I need to work on my hand and leg quickness during the summer. Anyone got any off ice training/drills that might help. Do you think short sprints, u/downp hill sprinting and sprint starts would help?

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 4:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
oops, that should read "...up/down hill sprinting...."

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 4:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey C5, whats up with your page of pix from the regular season, every one I tried game me an error?

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 4:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
opps, that should read "...gave me an error?" All that rubber seams to be effecting my spelling.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 4:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
whats the chatsters record for shellacking of the week? This week I got it twice, 20-1 on Monday and 17-4 on Tuesday. hmm let me see that gives me a GAA of 14 zillion or there abouts?

z-man: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 7:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I got nailed in the chest last night and had to quit my game. I lost my breath for nearly ten seconds and had that dull pain in my chest for a couple of hours. But now, a day later, all there is is a little bruise. I had never taken a shot like that before, but I am glad I took it on my knees, because if I was up, it may have hit me in the cup, which isn't as protective on slap shots as you know.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 8:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
sounds scary z-man, glad your alright. I heard of a hockey player that got hit in the chest by a slapshot and it stopped his heart, and he died. Not sure if she/he was a goalie or a skater.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 8:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I see that some goalies get up from the butterfly one leg at a time, while others, sort of spring back up. I use the one leg at a time style, or though I try to use the "correct" leg, so that I get up and move toward the puck more efficiently (I read this in goalies world). Anyone got tips about how the springing back up method works, is it just brutal leg strength or is there a knack to it?

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 11:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Unfortunately for Turek, the NHL gave the Stars half a day from whenever they won the cup, to make any trades before the expansion draft. They made a big deal about Turek at the Stars Parade the next day. Dallas might have been able to keep him, but he REALLY wants to be a starter, so this was a pretty amiable trade.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 11:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Probably a similar story for Rhodes too.

z-man: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 1:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The Blues protected Turek, but not Fuhr or McLennon, I would have taken Fuhr even if he is old... especially over Rhodes, but then Fuhr makes a lot more money... The Blues now have an advantage, two right catching starters, keeps the other teams on their toes with not much practice against that setup. Barasso is the only other I can think of.

charge: . . . . Wed, Jun 23, 3:17PM PST (-0700 GMT)
wow papillon your defence better suck

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 1:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
what defence? Oh you mean those five guys that ALL like to rush forward and TRY to score goals.

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 3:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
whats worse is that in the first game we shut then out for 17 mins, they score 3 in about 2 mins, then the whole team falls to bits. In the second game it was a similar story, shut out for 13 mins, then the flood gates opened.

snowman: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 4:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
papillon- I hear ya on the "NO DEE". This past winter season all I kept doing was telling the guys to get back, dont pinch. I felt like a broken record (no to mention a broken tender-with all the rubber flying at me) constantly parroting the same phrases. Did they ever listen?....with about 2 games left in the season.......too late then, but there is next winter with that team at least.

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 10:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi there

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 10:06AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, I just got back from the gym...man I love working out! I do it all for the love of the game =) So where is everyone?

BVW: . . . . Thu, Jun 24, 6:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does Garner's have a web site. I have bought much of my equipment from Source for Sports in London. The incident that happened to z-man also worries me. I'm getting up there in years so I'm looking for a C/A that provides better than average protection for the chest as well as better protection on my arms that my current C/A provides.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 3:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
BVM click on this button to go to Garners web site.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So the Pens get to stay in the Burgh afterall. Good. Hopefully Mario can do some good things there. Hasek gets the Vezina..duh. Close one though! Cujo actually had the most 1st place votes, but Dom had more points. Glad to see Lord Byron as the 2nd team allstar, too. Still a huge fan of his.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 8:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am thinkig of signing up for a local goalie school here for a week during the summer. hopefully to correct any mistakes I have developed. Can anyone give me a few pointers about what to expect, how to prepare myself before I go, and any little gems of wisdom.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 8:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey smottsie, hows the weight? still on the M&M's?

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 9:32AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I want to add some extra padding onto my C/A unit in the arm area, anyone got any tips about what kind of material to use?

C5: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 11:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...depleted uranium? What with all the chatsters being stung, lately, it might be a good idea... There's a site in Chicago, I forget where, which will add plastic and stuff to C/A's...

gbfreeman: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 2:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, say goodbye to the second ugliest pads in the nhl (behind Barasso's, sorry smott), Trevor Kidd is a Thrasher, as is Norm Maracle, and Corey Schwab.... finally those checkered tablecloth pads will go away.... roller team improved to 7-0-2 despite the puck hitting the ref and going into our goal.... put us down 2-1, but we came back to win 3-2 with the third goal coming with 12 seconds left... Started my first ever goalie camp this week.... i have never been so tired in my entire life... worked us like dogs.... and in sad news for roller players... Major League Roller Hockey suspended operations, joining RHI as casualties in the roller scene.... Well, if you want a laugh.... either ESPN or ESPN2 is showing Pro Beach Roller Hockey tonight.... hockey with banked turns, a ball, and a 2 point goal.... funniest thing i ever saw....

z-man: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 2:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The chest pad I have is an Edge UB5000. I have no complaints other than that one time, but I don't think any chest protector would have dulled a fast slapshot directly to the chest like that. It went so fast I couldn't judge how high it was, so I thought I had it caught in the butterfly. It would have hit me dead square in the cup had I been standing.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 2:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 I think the place you have in mind is at this button it's called great saves. I don't think they do any arm mods that would give more protection. I do know they do "butterflys" for the elbow section kind of like the banned Heaton C/A. As much as I'd like to see Kidd be a starter I think Marcle might get the #1 spot with maybe even Schwab being the #2. I've seen Schwab in person and he is extremly fast on his feet and plays a positional game very well. We shall see next season if I was on the money or talking out of my neck.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'd say Damian Rhodes...who already has a contract... and Maracle are your two dressed goalies on opening night with Kidder and Schwab as tradebait for whatever offense you can get in return.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Chatsters! Hmmm much debate about The Goal. Let's just say that a worthy team has the Cup and leave at that. I will weigh in on Eddie, to agree with Toast 100%. And decent NHL goalie would win behind Dallas. If anybody thinks Eddie can hold an inferior team in contention, think again, and go check his San Jose stats. He did his job well, but no better than a handful of other guys. Newy was the difference.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:25PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile Mario owns the Pens! And promises to lower ticket prices, while raising the salaries and keeping the team intact. Hmmm. Something wrong with that picture?

smott: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
For moi, managed a couple wins this week, not pretty but hey it ain't a beauty contest! Papillon, glad you're weighing in for Shellack of the Week! I still haven't topped my 16-goal, 77-shot debacle from last year (thank God) but the summer is young! As for quickness, remember that explosive strength is what counts for goaltenders. So talk to some triners about those types of drills, they will mostly involve jumping, lunging, and sprinting-type stuff. Remember it's not how much weight you can lift, it's how much, how FAST. They are 2 different things. All your drills should involve explosive movements. Just jumping up and down off a bench with hand weights is a killer.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:31PM PST (-0700 GMT)
For the getting-up from butterfly position, explosive strength will help you "pop up" but you also need good flexibility in the knees for that, to sit back towards the heels prior to popping up. I don't have that flexibility and my kneecaps have this annoying habit of dislocating if I sit on my heels, so I have to get up one legs at a time. I try to get up with the leg nearest the puck, but I fear when I'm tired I get up leaning on my dominant (right) leg all the time. I really think popping up is over-rated, most of the time it's not really necessary, good balance and positioning, even while down usually will do the trick.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 6:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And yes Trippster (and all my Chatster pals) I'm still hanging in there as radiation begins. 3 treatments down, 30 to go. Despite the M&Ms I'm told that I'm still skinny enough that I run the risk of lung damage and fractured rib from the radiation. Yay. Had I been more of the Pamela-Anderson-type endowment, the risks would be lowered, but alas the triple D-cup is not in my wardrobe! Such is life. Also I'm supposed to keep the treatment area out of the sun. What this means is my days of topless sunbathing are over! (Before they began!) I know you're all saddened.

Grass: . . . . Fri, Jun 25, 10:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
ms. smott -- Glad to hear that you are surviving the nuking! Let me be the first chatster to offer you fond birthday wishes... Happy 26th!!!

z-man: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 0:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I just started a new roller hockey league, which is played on asphalt with a ball. The rink is not quite level, but it has boards and the games are 44 minute run time with refs and all. And it was only $30 for a 10 game summer season. Anyway, both this time and last time, the coordinators put me on the last teams they assembled, even though I was the first to sign up. Some teams have a regular goalie, but there are a couple decent teams that didn't. Nope, I got put on the team with a roster of five guys who have never played hockey. At least they could (sort of) skate. Somehow they managed 3 shots on goal, because after the first half, the score was 3-0, and we hadn't had a shot yet. I told them all to play offense and let me handle the defense. I also told them to dump and chase. They stopped hanging back so far and we only lost 7-0. But it is nice to be appreciated at least.

C5: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 9:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It's hot! No time for roller outside, Z-man!

: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 2:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
If you thought Kidders pads were ugly with Carolina imagine what they will look like in Florida colors, if he even stays in Fl. Looks like you were on the money about Kidd Tripp. He really got the pinball treatment.

Sieve: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 4:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi ho gang. Havent been around in a week or two. Back and forth Mich to Fla. with the new pending job. If any of you know of someone looking for a full set of gear let me know. I'd love to continue playing, but the area of FL I'm going to be in looks pretty hockeyless. Man, what a downer... p.s. Mid-August or so before I consider selling it.

Sieve: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 4:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
smott, happy belated B-day. Glad to hear you are playing...and winning!

Sieve: . . . . Sat, Jun 26, 4:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tripp, right on as usual re: Thrashers line-up. Hated to lose Norm up here, but looked inevitable.

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Jun 27, 0:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
whoa yotes give up teverdosky, cummins to move up in the draft.... Take like 5 centers... rumors of roenick to wings for shanahan..... Crazy draft day.... Van are the big winners i think getting the swed twind

smott: . . . . Mon, Jun 28, 6:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for the kind birthday wishes guys....geez I am feeling old lately! However managed a 3-2 win in C the other night, on an Olympic size surface. Yuck. My angles were thrown all to hell, really felt like I didn't know where I was half the time, then wound up playing too tentative, further back in the crease. But I'll take the W.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 6:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
got blasted in the first round of my b roller tourney sunday night 12-3.... I think it was 3-1 or 3-0 special night..... No D or the D turns the wrong way.... I think they were allowed the pass like 95% of the time... making for a very long night for me.... I no see the puck... I no stop the puck..... and to make matters worse we have two subs... In Az in the summer you are not going to win with 2 subs. Ah well there is always the next season

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 10:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
must be a no D flu going round, got my butt handed to me again last night 9-5, these guys were quick, crashing the net and beating our guys to the puck... seemed like every rush was odd-man, stopped the breakaways, and the main shots, but 2,3 rebounds in the shooting gallery and as muchas I yelled, they'd leave guys on the backdoor all night.. arrgggh. hate getting shelled when 'im not really playing that bad.

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 10:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
btw... happy belated smott.... :) watched a game in C2 last weekend, thought something looks familiar.. he had my old Vic's - lol..

RocketGoalie: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 12:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, mine was more a case of too much D...as in too much in front of me. Let in 5 goals last night and FOUR of them were deflections off my own guys. And 3 of them thru screens. I'll give the other team credit though. They didn what coaches tell you to do...shoot from anywhere!!!

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 3:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sounds like everyone is having a strange time on the ice, to include me . Played the N.C. State team here on saturday and it started off with a weird deflection that I managed to recover from and make a save but the lack of D bit me in the ass as the rebound was scarffed up and put behind me. One of the weirdest things happened to me in this game as well. Guy breaking down the right side with the puck, has help on the left and my D backing in. Puck carrier is charging in hard and I can tell he's thinking pass since his stick blade is lined up that way. Sure enough he passes at the top of the circle to the other player. I'm already accross and in position for the one timer when the puck and the guys skate come together instead of the blade of the stick. The result was a puck launched almost straight up with me going down in the fly then trying to leap back up. I managed to contort around and swing at the puck with my stick but missed. The puck went in but the ref called it back saying it was kicked in. I won't argue that one :-) One for the goalie this time. After that the game got chippy and I ended up getting slashed onthe glove hand and my D did his best to take the offenders front teeth out before I could get to him. Guy ended up with a wide open gum line and I have a very sore wrist. Of all the places he could of hit on the back of my glove hand he got it right on the wrist bone between C/A and glove. Start of the 3rd saw about 5-10 minutes of play before one of my guys retaliated for a 2 hander to the face with his own and took the guy out by opening his head enough to call for the meat wagon. Needless to say the game was called off by the other teams coach and we won by default. Pissed me off since I was playing good but the team was playing like they had lead skates on, then resorted to goon tactics. Afterwards, in the parking lot, I looked up to check the moon and sure enough it was a full one. The real bummer is that we probablly blew our chance at getting accepted as a Div II independant team since the coach from the other team can voice his concerns when we petition for acceptance. Are things weird lately or what?

z-man: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 4:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I lost last night 20-1. I don't think I played poorly until the third period, when my fever came back in full force, and to accompany my headache, I was too physically tired to even keep my arms up. I faced 56 shots and in our 45 minute game. I had no real help from my defense, in fact 3 of the goals were off my D's sticks or skates. I was knocked over by my own defensemen for 2 goals. Screened heavily by my own guys for 4 or 5. Let in 5 on breakaways towards the end when I was playing sloppy because I was so tired. Plus I got slashed in the neck by my own centers stick. I milked that for about 5 minutes for a much needed rest. I got hooked and tripped by the other team and they scored after one of those but the ref wouldn't call interference. I hooked a guy going around the net and he got thrown out of the game for first trying to start a fight and then for arguing with the ref. Poetic Justice! It is hard to feel good about a game like that even when the other team tells you that you did well in the handshake line. I was one of only 5 on my team that was a sport enough to get in the line though. So, it was an odd night last night indeed!

Thibault: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 7:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thibault is the king

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jun 29, 9:45PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heres a nugget of info for those interested. I saw the new SFSL catalog listing the new Vaughn V-lite line as "semi-pro" and decided to find out from the horses mouth what the deal was. Mike Vaughn was cool enough to send me a response to the question and verified that the new V-lite line is indeed a "pro" quality product. What spured it's production is that most NHL goalies asked for the 5500 or 4000 line but with less bells and whistles but still the excellent protection in a lighter model. Hence the birth of the V-lite line, same product just a little lighter and cheaper in price too.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 0:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, roller hockey regular season ground to a close tonight... undefeated team is undefeated no more.... finished the season 7-1-2 in second place to the team that beat us tonight 4-3. They finished 8-1-1. On the upside won the best goalie trophy with a 1.55 GAA and 91.24 Save Percentage.... keep in mind, this is a lower league, so I am not blowing my horn here... Now I am, got asked to play the game after ours and got the 2-0 shutout.. faced 21 shots (40 minute game) and had to make a full splits skate save with 30 seconds left to preserve the S/O... Well, just the championship trophy to win and I can go on my roller hockey sabbatical.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 8:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It looks like Detroit kicked just about everyone to the curb. Everyone told to pack their bags except Chelios. Ranford told to beat feet too. Who is going to pick him up at this pont in his career?

: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 9:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GUy hebert is the best every other goalie stinks you stink

: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 9:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
come on some one chat with me i am getting bored

: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 9:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
come on some one chat with me i am getting bored

: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 9:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
okay then bye

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 10:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I know Tugnutt and Dafoe wear the V-Lite trappers. I think they're pro's?

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey there

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, for those of you who don't know me I'm 17 and I am a female goaltender....I am also lefty and from Massachusetts. I am going into my junior year...well actually repeating my junior year to go to another prep school to play some serious hockey with a great coach.

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:24AM PST (-0700 GMT)
A lot has changed in my hockey career lately but the future looks very promising and going to this new school will ensure that I go to a Division 1 Womens program

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It's too bad no one is ever on here when I am ( hehehe)

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I love talking to myself....

The Wall: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 12:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'll be back

charge: . . . . Wed, Jun 30, 3:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
who will back up irbe for the canes now?

: . . . . Thu, Jul 1, 9:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I vote for goalieshmuck

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 1, 9:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tues night roller league lost for the first time... 4-3 No offense and the d could not clear the puck...or maybe it was just that I was not directing it right.... Two rebound goals.. one off of my defenseman as he was setting the perfect screen for the shooter dispite my aggrevated four letter words in vein attempts to have him let me see the puck, and one on a two on one that I should have stopped. Had a great glover that they were celebrating on (thinking it had gone in), in fact the ref was signaling a goal.... NO SOUP on that shot... After the game, the robbed shooter was asking how I got it still shaking his head....

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 1, 11:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
well scrub team finished season tonight.... lost 5-3 to go 1-9-0... roller playoffs for other team start next week... anybody have any idea how long it takes a broken fingertip to heal.... broke it in warmups... lovely shade of purple... After roller playoffs gonna be focusing only on ice for the summer... roller hockey outdoors in the summer blows....

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 1, 11:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
and in pro news... the flyers waived ron hextall today... four wins short of 300... kind of a bummer. maybe he will be irbe's backup

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jul 2, 8:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So what do you guys think of goalies fighting? I have to play a team on Sunday who are very physical. last time our two teams met there was lots of rough stuff, which resulted in a bit of a brawl. I was in the stands watching the game as I was sick, but this weekend I am playing.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jul 2, 8:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Do you think goalies should avoid fighting, or get in there and back there teammates up? I only plan to get involved if someone attacks me personally or if the other goalie gets involved.

gbfreeman: . . . . Fri, Jul 2, 2:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Standard fighting rules for goalies... mix it up if you are personally attacked... if a brawl starts in your end... move to the far boards away from the fight and watch the other goalie... if the scrap is in the other end, skate to the center line and watch what the goalie does... if they get involved, that is your cue... if you shy away from the confrontation it is hard to ask your d to defend you when someone comes in hard during (or after) a play... and on the finger front... yep, broken... but not quite as swollen as yesterday... still going to play in the playoffs, but not going to let the teammates know about the finger..

GoalieHawk: . . . . Fri, Jul 2, 4:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... About my trip to Waterford, Michigan..... Like I said, I went to the training camp of the Metro jets of the CSHL(USA Junior B)..... The caliber of these players were unbelievable. Everyone had great speed and a great shot. They looked more like Major Junior than Junior B..... Anyways, I had a great time and played very well. Brent Agrusa, the head coach told me he was considering giving me the 3rd goalie spot on the team. But we both talked about it and decided it wasn't the best thing for me. As a 3rd goalie, I'd only play about five games..... Brent told me he thought I was a very good young goalie and he thanked me for my dedication and for my coming to Michigan. He wants to keep in touch for this season and next..... He is also going to give a call to the head coach of the Portland "AAA" Jr.Hawks to inform them about me..... Also, I just got invited to attend the main training camp for the New Mexico Ice Breakers of the WSHL(USA Junior B), so I have that to look forward to..... Anyways. This experience was great. I now know I can compete in Junior B..... Anyways, talk to yah later.

REALITY SPEAKING: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 10:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
3rd goalie spot? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the water/towel boy? Sounds like you got kicked to the curb gently so that your whole world wouldn't come tumbling down and your parents wouldn't find you in the tub with your wrists slit. If you could play at that level you wouldn't have been offered the 3rd spot. 3rd spot is like asking somone in the crowd to come down and play cause the other 2 tenders are dead. You got the "I don't have a spot for you here but I know an organization that can use you" speech. It's called an easy let down kid. Keep playing and improving and maybe one day it might happen for you.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 12:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
To REALITY SPEAKING..... The water/towel boy? Excuse me, sounds like someone is jealous..... So are you saying the 3rd string NHL goalies are nothing but people from the stands? Yeah right..... Did you know that Dominik Hasek was once the #3 goalie for the Chicago Blackhawks? Look at him now, he is the #1 goalie for his team and also #1 in the world..... So get your God damn facts straight before you open your mouth again, punk.

REALITY SPEAKING: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 1:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Look kid, we're not talking about NHL goalies but Jr. hockey and there isn't a jealousy factor in it. Think about what the coach told you and try reading between the lines, you might save yourself some heart ache down the road. I suggest YOU get your facts straight and work on a profession that can support you when the hockey dream falls out from underneath you.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 5:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
To REALITY SPEAKING..... Why don't you just tell me who you really are instead of hiding behind a fake name..... Yes, you are jealous. Why else would you say those things? ..... It's plain and simple. You are jealous..... Listen, you don't even know me. You don't know how far I can go in my hockey career, so don't bother cause I don't give a fuck about what you have to say you piece of shit.

REALITY SPEAKING: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 6:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
My how quick you come unhinged GH. Is this how you play hockey as well? It's no wonder you were told to go away. If it's any consolation, there was talk a few days ago about who would be backing Irbe up now that Kidd is gone and your name was thrown out. Maybe you should give Carolina a call, I'm sure they could use you.....to hand out towels, I mean play 3rd string. What difference does it make what my name is? The truth will always hurt son and it seems to hurt you a lot right now. The sooner you accept the truth the faster you can move on. Maybe you should change your name from GoalieHawk to Waterboy or 3rd stringer, maybe even try Goalie Scrub, how about Bench Warmer or Short Fuse.I know, the perfect name for you is Goalie Spaz!! ALL HEAR THIS, FROM THIS DAY FORWARD Goalie Hawk WILL BE KNOWN AS GOALIE SPAZ. That will be all.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 7:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
To REALITY SPEAKING..... There are only a couple of reasons why someone insults another..... Reason #1, because they are jealous..... Reason #2, because they are afriad of what they don't understand..... Which one are you? ..... You do seem to be AFRAID to reveal your name. Why? If you believe this strongly about your opinion, then why are you afriad to reveal your real name to the rest of the chat members? Which chat member are you? If truth hurts, then the truth is you are too afriad to reveal yourself..... But you know what. I don't really care what you have to say anymore. You are just a jealous washed-up hockey player, so what you have to say to me doesn't mean a thing. I don't have to listen to you..... You are just jealous, do you hear me? YOU ARE JEALOUS

Chris: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 8:12PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Why don't we end this conversation here? I have both of your IPs, and if the flaming continues, you will be banned. OK? Thank you. In case you are wondering, REALITY SPEAKING is not a regular chat member, so no need to suspect your friends. Any comments, suggestions, flames? button

Chris: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 8:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
BTW, think the back log should be changed at all? I think its set to 50 at the moment. If its too much or too little, let me know. Thanks.

Grass: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 8:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chris -- Fifty seems nifty! (And thanks for pouring some common sense on those flames...)

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sat, Jul 3, 8:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chris..... Thanks you thank you thank you..... I was waiting for someone to step in. I don't know what his problem is.

z-man: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 0:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, congrats on the results of the training camp. You were right about R.S. sounding jealous and you should be proud of yourself. Maybe one day you will be the first NHL goalie from the Portland Oregon area (that I know of). Also a question: What are the official rules about smothering the puck? Sometimes I will cover the puck when I am in a race with a forward thinking breakaway and I don't think I can stickhandle myself out of it. Never a problem until one game when I got a delay of game for covering around the near faceoff dot. I was being checked so it wasn't unnecessary. It seems the refs don't even know what the rule actually is, I don't know.

z-man: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 0:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, are you sponsored for any of your gear? All of the junior players I know that are sponsored receive Bauer gear. I am not big on Bauer but free is better than a thousand bucks. The only thing I own that is Bauer is a long pant shell for my Cooperalls. I am also embarassed to admit my inline skates are Nike which is slightly worse. I just figure I will resist as long as I can so that hopefully Nike won't one day own the world with Disney, NBC, and Coca-Cola.

z-man: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 0:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, congrats on the results of the training camp. You were right about R.S. sounding jealous and you should be proud of yourself. Maybe one day you will be the first NHL goalie from the Portland Oregon area (that I know of). Also a question: What are the official rules about smothering the puck? Sometimes I will cover the puck when I am in a race with a forward thinking breakaway and I don't think I can stickhandle myself out of it. Never a problem until one game when I got a delay of game for covering around the near faceoff dot. I was being checked so it wasn't unnecessary. It seems the refs don't even know what the rule actually is, I don't know.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 10:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
z-man..... Thanks for your support, that really means a lot to me. Covering the puck? Well I'm pretty sure the rule says you can't cover the puck beyond the face-off circle. But if you are racing toward the puck and a player is after it to and you cover it up when he is pressing then the ref with allow it. But if you are there by yourself with no one around then he'll tell you to play it or give you a penalty..... Just play it safe, if a guy is coming then cover it, if no one is press then play it..... Major Juniors get sponsored with equipment. I think some Junior A teams also get sponsored. But for Junior B the players get pants/helmet/gloves/sticks. For goalies they get pants/sticks and a maybe some other things.

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 3:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
zman, as a roller goalie, i may be able to give you some answer about the freezing the puck thing... the Rule Book that SixPac puts out for roller hockey says 12 feet from the net to the side and to the front, so the faceoff dots are (depending on the size of the rink) are right at the edge and it becomes a judgement call by the refs... most refs will give you a warning the first time... Also, on the Nike inline skates thing... i am using a 29 dollar (at walmart) pair of skates... i find i wear them out pretty fast and can't seem to get jazzed about spending a lot of money on skates....

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 3:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
to all... have you found yourselves playing better with an injury? I broke the tip of my ring finger glove hand in warmups thursday night. since then i played ice pickup and seemed to play much better.. maybe it is paying attention to fundamentals more due to the weaker glove hand...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 7:37PM PST (-0700 GMT)
For those that remember, I have decided to go with the GRAF 750 goal skates, I'm just waiting for the new models to come out. If you've read the new SFSL catalog you know that they have a new feature on them this time. Seems they have incorporated a piece of metal on the inside of the cowling by the ball of the foot area to help you get up quicker. I was curious so I called GRAF and they told me that it's a bolt on piece that comes with the skate and can be added or removed by the user. The only draw back is that they are still cranking them out at the factory and they have yet to hit the shelves. The lady at GRAF told me they should be out around the end of Sept- early Oct 99. For any of you interested in GRAF skates, the cheapest I've found them for is at Royal sports at http:// www.royalsports.mb.ca/main3.html

Toast: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 8:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Okay...enough is enough. First of all, let's straighten a few things out. GH, congrats on making the trip to get a looksee at the camp...BUT, and this may sting - there is a large difference between the calibre of that Jr B league and Major Junior. And there is some truth in what R.S. was saying, although he may not of been that diplomatic about it. 3rd string on a Jr. B team is usually a bone thrown to a local...around here, the third stringer usually is sent to a Jr C team or another Jr B team to get playing time.

Toast: . . . . Sun, Jul 4, 8:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Now, before you think that I just being a sourpuss, I am just trying to put a little perspective on things. So, if you choose to slag me...feel free, but from what I know about hockey and the various leagues, I have a pretty good idea of the talent level.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 0:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast..... I know the difference between Major Junior and Junior B..... But what is so wrong about being a 3rd string goaltender? You don't know all the facts about the Metro Jets. First, their new back-up goalie played Junior A last year. Also, their starting goaltender is a "maybe" for this season because a team in the NAHL has tendered him..... So that means I lost the #1 and #2 spot to Junior A caliber goaltenders, now think about that..... You are wrong about that most 3rd string goalies are local or thrown a bone. Every goalies starts either 2nd or 3rd string. They don't become #1 overnight. They have to work their way up the charts..... As a 3rd string goalie I would expose myself to Major Junior, Junior A, College and other Junior B teams. So what is the bad thing about that? Remember, I am only 17 and most of the guys I competed against were 19-20 years old. So I got a long hockey career in front of me..... Also, remember that Junior B is a feeder system to Junior A and college. So having a 3rd string goalie is a good idea, because a lot of Junior B players are drafted or tendered and could be sent off to play Junior A mid-season. For example, think the IHL/AHL is Junior B and think the NHL is Junior A. You see players get called up all the time between the IHL/AHL and the NHL..... Now I think you'll understand.

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 1:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Re the Graf 750 skates, I have last years model and they are awesome, the most comfortable skates I have ever had the pleasure of wearing. They were comforatble enough to play in after a couple of public skating session, and within a couple of training sessions they felt perfect. I got mine last summer, so they don't need replacing yet, but I will check out the new model to see the enhancements they have added, you never know if they look cool enough I might just treat myself.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 2:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
For the definitive ruling on the Dallas goal go to the following url button and check on the sports report.... like the idea for goal sticks

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 4:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
gbfreeman, re goalie fights, we scored an insurance goal (4-2) with 2 mins to go, and the tempers flaired a bit. Everyone started to dance, so I skated to the red line, the other goalie started to double team one of our guys, so I piled in from the red line. I finished my business with the guy, we both got 2mins for leaving the crease and fighting majors. afterwards the guys thanked me (which surprised me) for getting stuck in.

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 6:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sigh...apples and oranges...sorry, I should clarify myself. Major Jr means CHL (OHL, WHL, QMJHL). The NAHL isn't what I meant. And I you kind of confirmed my point on the third stringer. For example, you try out for a Jr. B team here, you impress...instead of having you sit on the bench, they would send you to a Jr C team to play, then call you up if needed. Very different from the pro level, in fact in some lower level pro leagues, the third stringer is often a local guy, just an emergency fill in. You're 17? Well, typically you start playing Major Junior at 16...18 is your draft year.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast..... Once again, I know all about Major Junior. The NAHL is a Junior A league..... Anyways, I've dug deep into the Junior leagues so I know what I am talking about. There are many Junior B leagues. The WSHL, MJHL, MetJHL, EJHL, EmpJHL, IJHL and the CSHL(which is probably the best league). Junior A has three leagues. The AWHL, NAHL and the USHL(which is the best Jr.A league in North America)..... Most teams carry a 3rd goaltender. Why? Because they might get called up for Junior A or Major Junior. That's why. I already explained that..... Anyways. I am still in touch with the Metro Jets, so it's wait and see. Also, I'm going to attend the main training camp for the New Mexico Ice Breakers of the WSHL..... The fact is Toast, I don't know why you are telling me that stuff. Because it's mostly unclear. I know a lot about Junior B and Junior A.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon thanks for the feedback on the skates. I haven't found too many goalies with GRAF skates but all of the players that wear them swear by them. The only other version I've seen have been Ed's with the carbon fibre cowling and special blades. I wonder if he'll ever market those and if he does how much will they cost. I did notice he went with a GRAF boot though.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB that article is hilarious.Think how good our GAA and Saves % would become. The goal stick idea is pretty cool too. Would those be replaceable blades I'm wondering or throw aways like a bic razor?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon since the new models have the bolt on feature you might be able to just buy the bolt on piece instead of a new pair of skates. Check out their web site at this button or call them at 1-888-703-4723

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 9:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast, I think everyone else here gets the idea and understands what you are saying (I know I do), but I think your efforts are in vain, GH isn't going to listen to you or anyone else. It's obvious that even logic and fact will not convince him otherwise. GH you need to listen to what Toast is telling you, you may just learn a thing or two besides it's the way things have worked for years and will continue to work for years. Now if this makes me a bad guy for saying something then feel free to let me know too.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 10:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon way to go on the throw down. Just don't go Hanson on us eh? :-) Sometimes the guys in men's leagues go a little too far with the fighting. We don't want to hear that you had to get stiches or black eyes OK? Way to muck it up though.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 12:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon, good job on the altercation... your teammate made my point.... they will be more willing to take one for you knowing that you are willing to stick up for them... glad you came out of none the worse for wear... i have only been involved in 3 big altercations.. One cooled down pretty quickly... one turned into a major brawl (actual bloodshed) but the other goalie was pretty cool, we both met at the red line and sort of did a little squaredancing, he did not want to throw and neither did I... we both ended up laughing pretty hard about how silly we looked... and the third ended up pretty ugly... Puck loose in the crease, player decides to get it by jumping through me, putting both of his knees down in my back... well, the whistle blew, I pushed him off me, and his teammate punched me. We started throwing pretty fast and furious and all hell broke lose. The refs ended the game (3 minutes left) gave me 17 minutes in penalties (2 for roughing, 5 minute major, and a 10 minute misconduct). Needless to say, led the league for penalty minutes by a goalie... But, my crease stayed pretty clear for a while.

z-man: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 1:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have Graf forward skates, and they are the best skates I have ever owned. Mine are a little older and use the Bauer Tuuk blade and holder. The new ones look even nicer. I definitely want the 750's come bonus time. Also, lets lay off of GoalieHawk please and let him be proud of his progress. Third string may not be a glamorous position but there is no question that it is a necessary due to pay. And Curtis Joseph was a late bloomer I think. Anyway, GoalieHawk is probably better at 17 than I would ever hope to be at 23 in a rec league.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 4:45PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck..... I do listen, but I just don't agree with Toast. I have my own beliefs.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 7:47PM PST (-0700 GMT)
<---------refuses to bang head on the wall. You can't get blood from a turnip. You can lead a horse to water blah blah blah. GB, you the man. Sounds like your a regular ALI in the net and here I thought I had a lot of PIMS LOL. After last weeks ordeal I figured I would have some more but it turned out for the better and I got off(don't ask me how).

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 7:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks CdP...if I remember correctly, you have experienced the system...

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 7:56PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyway...no worries here, I am not going to get a concussion. I must admit I am much more familiar with the leagues in Canada, so I am not sure how Jr B. here compares with Jr. B south of the border. Any others in the Golden Horsehoe area shed some light, I beleive there was some international games played between Erie and Pgh and some Canadian teams in the last couple of years...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 7:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast, I guess you can say that, I'm now one of those local guys you mentioned earlier:-) double emergency backup tender but I still get the invites to the camps. I assume it's to motivate the prospects or it could be my charmig personality LOL

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, it is not meant to be a knock against the local, there was a day in the NHL when the home team had a local in the stands as both team's backup...

Toast: . . . . Mon, Jul 5, 8:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Gotta run...sorry about the short stay, CdP.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 7:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey GH.... I don't think everyone here is trying to bash you, but rather trying to give you the knowledge they have gained from experience... This place is generally a bunch of people trying to help each other become better tenders... With a little fun ribbing each other as our NHL teams do good or bad... Maybe we need to swallow our "pride" at times and realize that there are people here who have been through what you are experiencing right now... Congrats on getting the tryout, glad to hear you did pretty well... But maybe, as third string, they are saying you need to listen a little more to people who have been there, or saying you have a little growing up to do... maybe both..

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 7:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for skates and ordering them.... I think I heard here on the forum that Graf skates are intended to be molded to your foot by some heating process.... And if that isn't dome by someone who knows what the heck they are doing you won't get a good fit... That was one of the deciding factors in mt buying bauer ice skates... The other was that I found a pair of 3000's at the sports exchange for a mere $150, whereas they sell for $325 here in stores. They fit well and work well for me.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
fourqts your partialy correct about the GRAF skates. GRAF sells a convection oven for heating skates up so they can be custom sized(stretched) to the individual foot. If you have feet slightly bigger/smaller than the other or the boot rubs your ankle bone etc it's a ideal skate for you. Otherwise you can wear them like any other skate out of the box. GRAF's only stipulation is if you do opt to heat them up it has to be done by a authorized rep blah blah blah you know the rest.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thats right fourqts, they put the Graf's into a machine that warms them up (looks a little like a microwave), then you put the skates on, and once they have cooled down they should provide a very good fit to your feet. I have to admit, these skates are the most comfortable items of foot wear that I have ever had (except maybe for the pink bunny slippers, oh no, my secrets out!!), people think I am weird when I say that, but for me anyway, its true. One other thing, I don't wear socks, so when I wore the warmed up pair around the store, I did so without socks on, as I thought this would effect the fit when I wore on the ice.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
spooky, two replies to the same question at exactly the same time

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thinking about it, cdp is probably right, I have one foot that is a little larger than the other, and the guy that fitted the skates said that putting them in the oven would help stretch the boot that little bit extra to improve the comfort for the larger foot.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
AHHHH the instentaneous barrage of info.... I thought I was on the goalies domain.... Had a pretty cool phone call from Montreal and the Hockey news.... I hadn't re-uped my subscription from last season and they called to ask if I was going to do so... I had already decided that I was gouing to subscribe again but was being rather lazy about doing so... Anyway the guy was pretty cool.... He asked what the fan's perspective was on the JR incident, the new arena, the firing of Schoney, the hiring of Francis, the trade of tever.... Pretty informed for a joe telemarketer... Was on the phone for like 20 minutes shooting the breeze.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey cdp

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Back to the rink(s) tonight... Roller game at 8:30 if the rain stays away.. and to the coyotes place for Ice at 9:40... For those of you who would like to see a nice practice facility check out button

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
ahhhh missed CdP

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon do you have a Belfour site by chance? I seem to remember you saying something about it. I'm just wondering if it's you or not.If it is I'm sure you probablly know that Belfour has a tricked out pair of GRAF skates. Actually the only thing GRAF about them is the boot. I saw the article on the Belfour page but its no longer there. Do you happen to know how I can access it again?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm still here 4qts. So what was the dudes deal? He give you a price break on the subscription?:-)

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 8:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sorry CdP behind a firewall at this client... Thought I missed you... And he did like $5... Started agreeing at 54.95 and he said at the end I'd be billed for $49.95... So was cool there I guess.... Just wanted to talk hockey..

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Interesting site 4qts. I like how they named the different divisions with regional specific titles. Both sites are well laid out(went to the coyote site) lots of info and esay to navigate. The rule/penalty explanation cartoons are by far the best and funniest I've seen in a while

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hows the pro shop there? They say they carry a lot of gear, how are they on goal gear? The most I had found in one place was at the play it again in Mesa and at "behind the mask" in Peoria. No real great deals but I took in to consideration I was in AZ :-)

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
not much goal gear.... like 2 full gear sets yeaterday... MCM Cobra and Reactor 4 stuff.... All yotes colors of course... They think there stuff is gold though... R 4 pads were priced at $1500....... As for shops.... Behind the mask has three now... and there are two good play it agains.... but the Play it agains love Itech and low end bauer gear.... But they did have a air defense 900 setup last week.... Gold again at $1199 for the pads. I mostly shop the net... Garners, Scotts, and The sports exchange and save big bucks.... At Behind the mask they are pretty friendly to me mostly.... But won't touch some of the deals I've gotten on the net.... Say it is lower than their cost at times... Did get my catcher there though... and alot of the little stuff like laces and tape and sticks (when they get ones i like)...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah I know what you mean, I tried haggling with Randy Exelby over price and he wouldn't match anything especially if it was in Canada. With pad prices that high(there) I guess that DOM commercial isn't that far of a stretch. I was always wondering where they got those prices from since they seemed so overblown. Now I know, AZ :-)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I got an E-mail yesterday that I knew was going to happen sooner or later, I guess someone else also had the idea and put it into action. Seems at pro baseball and football games you can buy head phones for $10 and this allows you to hear what is going on down on the field uncensored. Some of the players wear mics and they do cut out for huddles and meetings to keep sensitive stuff out that would effect the play. I have been saying for years that I'd subscribe to a channel that provided real time uncensored audio from the ice. Every now and then on TV you get a swear word or piece of audio that wasn't meant to be broadcast but it's not the same as being there and being able to hear the trash talking and calls being made. Hopefully they implement this at NHL games and better yet they start a channel where everything is uncensored. I can see it now, the REAL MANS UNCENSORED SPORTS CHANNEL LOL

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP, No I don't own the Belfour site, but I did save the article. I can email it to you if you want.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP, No I don't own the Belfour site, but I did save the article. I can email it to you if you want.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
and then some.... Like I said he haggled a little with me on the glove.... Into source for sports territory (after shiping and $20 for the wait) but in general he is firm about not hitting canadian pricing... Although when I buy a stick they generally give me $5 to $7 off of the stick and a free roll of tape... so a heaton helite stick runs me about $37 and a bauer about $40.... At those prices you wont see me smashing them on goal posts ect. very often... unlike my san diegan friend.....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey that would be great Papillon, just drop the letter"e" off of Carpe and mail to me at aol.com please (Carpdepuck @aol.com)

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
see ya fourqts

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
as for uncensored chat.... that is one of the reasons I love my seats at the Yotes.... I sit in an overhang on the ice right at the turn... I can actually hear the players taslking alot of the time.... Talking shit and or talking to their teamies... is cool

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
cdp, ok, its on its way.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I hear you 4qts, it's too expensive now a days to smash sticks period. The wholesale price dealers get is better than what the average joe can get plus they buy in large quantities that isn't practical for you and I. I think manufacturers should keep goal stick prices down as low as possible, how to do that though is a tough question that I don't readily have the answer for unfortunately

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks a lot Papillon.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
WOW, 3 chatsters on a one time. thats got to be a record, I don't think I've seen that in a long time.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 9:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts you use Battram gear don't you?

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 10:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
bold 3500 pads but with the roller series plates attached.... Saving up for glove and blocker but things like car payments and rent and food keep getting in the way.... oh and NHL tickets and gas and engagment rings and weding plans and garbage stuff like that.... lol

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 12:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I was talking to Scott a couple of days ago about some pad design ideas I have and he told me he plans to start another line called Millenium after the new year. I'm curious to see if it will happen since he was supposed to start the Dynasty line of which I know of 2 sets in exsistence, one being the set I have and another set he gave to a hockey camp instructor. I never got a answer on why he hasn't followed up on it though. My gear is still holding up great after a long hard season of use, they are actually perfect right now, everything is comfortable. How has the roller hockey plate insert held up worked out so far? I know about things getting in the way, sounds like you have your priorities straight but I'd consider reviewing the last 2 they really take away from the hockey experience LOL

z-man: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 5:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I remember that when I went to the Cellular One Ice Den to check it out, it took me over an hour to get there. Of course that was from Tempe. So, how do you get to a 9:40 ice game coming off of a 8:30 roller game? Are they in the same neighborhood? I once tried the Graf 750s on, and they did fit real nice. But they were nearly $400 though it was the only time anyplace that sold Graf had the 750 in stock in my size so I had to try it on. Of all places, it was also in Arizona, at the ice arena on McClintock / Hayden. They had never heard of the oven though, which made me wonder! One thing 4qts forgot to mention about the Ice Den Pro Shop, they are also big on Mission brand gear. Mission and Bauer, plus a display set of MCM pads in Coyote colors.

z-man: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 5:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
One other thing I am curious about: Since Cujo hits the puck by holding the butt end in his catcher and the paddle in his blocker hand, what kind (if any) curve does he use on his stick? It seems if he has a curve at all, it would either be backwards in his stance or when he hits the puck.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 6, 6:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
z-man I just checked out a few of my CUJO pics and he really doesn't have much of a curve,if any, to speak of. Which explains his ability to get away with flipping the stick and having a good shot.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 1:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for getting between rinks.... well the ice team knows I made a commitment to the roller squad before they offered me the spot so they have to make due when the schedule gets touchy..... The dist between them is a few miles so not such a big deal.... The roller game tonight was rained out... So all ice.... Let in two one off my players skate the second a rebound right in front of the net.... ARGH!!!!... Win 8-2... Team buying me shots afterword... Lets see I've played three games for them and they have won 2 of the three and no others.... They are loving me.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 1:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for the wedding and engagment things... CdP... This girl goes to all the Yotes games I get tickets for... Watches hockey night without complaints... Goes to all my games... Does not bitch when I send Scott $800 for a new set of pads when the ones I have are two season's old... Oh and she doesn't get too upset with my job which has me in and out of town frequently and working the weirdest hours you can imagine..... Plus I will have her in the pipes by year end..... She is almost ready.... Marry her the man says....... OK

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 1:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for my batts I have blk and white wave pads.... The Roller plates are secured by lacing near the front of the pad and by the straps near the rear.... The pads broke in perfectly and are very light and flexible.... To get the roller plates off is like a 5 min job... I've already referred three tenders to Scott and one has gotten his pads and loves them as well.... I wear mine really loose like nik boolin... and play a generally full fly game.... Scott's stuff is the best I've seen.. the only thing I've seen that is near it is the $1200 briand altairmax things... nice pads as well but for the extra 400 I'd get a block and glove from scott.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 4:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey fourqts, she sounds just like my girlfriend. Except that she wants to become a stripey rather than play. That could cause one or two problems, if we are not careful.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Chatsters....my didn't I miss some interesting exchanges!

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH congrats on your tryout. Keep working hard and trying to improve your game and good things will come your way.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:31AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And not to editorialize...but it's always surprised me in the past how many grown men seem to get their feathers ruffled by a 17-yr old kid. We were all that age once and had the attitudes that went along with it. I think it's great to chase your dream and believe that anything is possible. For most of us, that isn't the case anymore.

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey smottsie, hows the recovery going?

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile I am accumulating LAYERS of shellack!!! I've noticed 2 things about summer hockey. 1) My best guys seem to disappear to play golf. And 2) All the other teams get an influx of college kids. What does this mean?? I GET SHELLACKED!!

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hiya papillon how's the life of a butterfly?

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am doing OK...9 radiation treatments down, 24 to go. I am sore as hell but it sure beats throwing up on chemo! Plus, my hair is growing back. I have a 5-o-clock shadow on my head! Heh heh heh....

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
oh, not too bad really. where i play all the regulars are on holiday during the summer and they are replaced by juniors and guys on try outs, i.e guys with something to prove.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Uh oh sounds like lots of pucks for you! The school kids coming back into our league really throw things out of kilter. My teams are OK, but we don't have a lot of speed. When there's a couple of roadrunners out there, look out.

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
on monday I played against these two german guys that were trying out. I totally robbed the guy with an awesome (for me) glove save, so to prove how awesome he was he had to score about a 1000 goals on his own.

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
one of the germans was a goalie, he was like 6'5 and about 220-230 lbs, he was quick and relied upon reflexes more than positioning. I didn't thik he was that great for a pro, but I did not want to bad mouth him, as it might look like sour grapes as he was better then me.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes I know the type. STill trying to score in the last few seconds of a game when they're already up 9-1. Just lovely. We gave up 5 unanswered goals on Monday to turn 5-3 into an 8-5 loss. I stopped 5 for 6 on breakaways but otherwise got swamped. My poor D is so slow, and the Fs don' come back to help. It can get ugly.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
If I was 230 lbs, I would rely on positioning, period!

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
My problem is the opposite! Not very big, and not very quick!

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am only playing twice/week at the moment....trying to play a couple of tennis tournaments. But it's hard because my energy is so low. I would be sharper in hockey if I played some pickup games.

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:46AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have fairly good size (6'1, 200-ish lbs) so I try to use positioning, for me its my reflexes that let me down, hence my plea for drill a week or so agao.

papillon: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:46AM PST (-0700 GMT)
that guy really surprised me, as usually the bigger they are the slower they move

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yep usually. I am 5'9" 135 lbs so position is key for me...but after a few weeks off I find my angles are pretty lousy. For me, only lots of playing time fixes that.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 8:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...back in a bit....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 9:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts, sounds like you've found the perfect woman, I take back my last statement :-) Hi ya Smott, long time no hear. Sounds like the shellacking hasn't spared you any lately

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 9:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I vote that all the chatsters pitch in and buy Smott a piece of plexi glass the size of a goal. No more shellacking for the Smottster. Glad to hear you are doing good, hadn't seen ya in a while and was wondering what you were up to. Sounds like you've been keeping busy though

wolfman: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 10:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Happy belated b\d smott. Hope your feeling better. I was reading about size. Try 5'3 145 lbs.Positioning is all important to me. Played back to back games last nite and won both 6-2 &5-4. my first wins in a long time.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 10:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, i guess that makes me the resident gorilla at 6'4" 230 lbs. Have found that my size kind of freaks out some of the roller players... any advantage i can get is great... third week of one night a week camp... first week we actually got to see shots... saw enough rubber to keep goodyear in busy for a year... 10 minutes of straight breakaways and 2-0 take a huge amount out of you... what fun!! Actually it is a blast and i am finding my game improving week by week.... Roller playoffs start tomorrow night... cant wait... End of an era... player 298 regular season games in 7 seasons and 22 playoff games... putting the roller blades away for the summer.. Ice here I come..

wolfman: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 10:31AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I played a tourney against a guy that was 6'6. his pads were 36". It looked like they took up the whole net.

z-man: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 12:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am 5-8 and 150 lbs, and I always get teased by my teammates about how small I am, especially when I take off my pads. I try to lie and tell them I weigh 180, but nobody believes me.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 2:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm right there with z but add 20pounds... As I'm new to hockey positioning is deffinitly not my strong point... But the quick left makes up for it at times.... and wb smotsie

Scott Battram: . . . . Wed, Jul 7, 6:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
We have the design for the new pads! And we will be doing up a protoype next week... The star design was nice.. but I knew there is something better out there, and I FOUND IT!!! It is a graphic that truly ROCKS! and will look awesome, combined with some changes to the pad (adding new shin lock, better calf and cheater, new knee slashpad, new buckle pads, as well as a new foam stuffing technology that will make the pad lighter and more flexible! as well as some other refinements, we will have a pad that is innovated and ready to enter the new Millenium!) Full production of this model will be ready in about 3 months... just need to get the logos designed and manufactured! When I get it done next week, we will take some photos, and post them on our site as a sneak preview!! Of course it wont have the Millenium logo on it yet.. but all other changes should be completed!

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 6:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Battram Bold 3500's for sale on ebay.... Gotta get the latest and greatest...... Kidding... Cool and thanks for showing up again scott...

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 6:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And a question for scott.... I think I saw a PBH goalie wearing batt gear... is this correct?.. I forget the team but I think they are the bold 3500's but with the logo's covered up or removed

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 8:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yikes all this talk about new pads! I am a fashion disaster in my scruffy old black Louisvilles....even my formerly spiffy white Koho gloves are looking pretty lived in!

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey there, my equipment is looking pretty worn it too...I need a new glove pretty bad

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heaton is my favorite brand so I will go for the Helite V glove

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Any body know what ever happened to Fitzpatrick and Tabaracci? I haven't heard much on either one of them in a long time.

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey there..no I haven't heard anything

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Did you hear that the Rangers got Kamenski from the Avs?

The Wall: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
okay then I guess not...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 10:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I found a cool site where you can get masks from yesteryears heros reproduced. You can know own Sawchucks, Dryden's, Plante's, Cheever's etc. mask for a small price. Would make an awesome gift for a goalie, thats for sure. Check it out at this http://www. mite-hockey.com

z-man: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 12:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I heard on the radio that the Stanley Cup suffered a 3 inch dent when Guy Carbonneau threw it from his hotel window into a swimming pool...or tried to.

C5: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 12:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Where's G35? He's gotta be 6'3" or so, from the looks of his pix.. Me, I'm 6'0", 185, so I've got lots of neither, size nor reflexes!

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 12:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP... How are Scott's Gloves and Blockers.... I'd imagine that they are up to par with his other gear.... Let us know what you think of the hand peices specifically... thx

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 3:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
So, do you think the Rangers want to win the (yes dented) cup this season or what... Kamensky and Quintal earlier this week... and Theo Fleury today... Think Gretzky's thinking "Sure, now they spend money".

RocketGoalie: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 4:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP - Fitzpatrick is an unrestricted free agent after the Hawks did not make him a "qualifying offer". They just signed Steve Passmore to he probably won't be back. Tabaracci's out of Washington what the Caps are calling a "goalie youth movement." What they really need is a center, left wing, right wing and defenseman youth movement. Tabby's talking retirement, but we'll have to see.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts, the gloves are bomber just like the pads. I have the blocker with the 30 degree kickout in the upper left corner, it seems to help direct pucks to the corner. Really no break in to talk about on a blocker. The glove really fit my hand when I got it, I mean driving glove fit, now it's perfect. The board itself is good, not overly rigid but not mushy. I opened the top up to peek at the insides, there really isn't anything to blockers just a lot of sewing and a square chunk of foam. The catcher is a piece of work. I've gotten stung a few times through it but other wise it's the bomb. This glove comes on the stiff side and it takes some aggressive working to get it broken in but it's playable out of the box. If anything it is extremly durable, although I do have a wear spot at the base of the glove break from wear due to the plastic in the lower hand area and stickhandling. Really minor stuff, nothing drastic. The snag is good(double T), I keep a softball in mine when not in use so it stays pretty deep. The catcher is similar in appearance to the Vaughn 4000 minus the detached cuff. The only difference I've noted is the Vaughn 4000 has a different manner of closing(break) than the Battram does. All gloves seem to have different breaks to them based on manufacturer and how the hand sits in the glove. I have considered going to a Vaughn 4000 specifically for the way it closes down on a stick really well. One really good point on the Battram glove is the back of the hand/ cuff portion. Unlike other gloves out there, there is a significant amount of padding in this area, not just material. I was thankful for that during this last incident when I got slashed on the wrist. The slash still hurt but I can only imagine what it would of felt like if there was no padding in that area. All of Scott's gear holds up well and I've been using mine 4-5 days a week since I got it last season.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
fourqts - I got Scott's glove & blocker about 3 months ago...so I don't know much about their durability. He can make them any size, but the medium (for my smallish hand) is on the small side. I would get the large next time but I don't stick handle well so the larger the better. the blocker's fine too, although (and this will be news to Scott if he reads it here since I never bothered to tell him) the pattern I got (a variation of the angle design) was not sewn in completely. That's the problem with mail order...it's not worth the shipping from California to Scott and back. The problem with mine isn't a big deal, but it's something to think about. The only other thing I'd tell you to go over carefully with Scott is where you want the break in the glove. Mine breaks closer to my fingers and I'd like it closer to my wrist. Again, not a major problem but it's something I'll change the next time I order from him.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
On another note. I had the opportunity to examine the new V-lite C/A up close and let me be the first to say that it is nothing more than a name change. The 2200 line is now the V-lite line. The little warranty card attached even said 2200 inside. It was still a pretty good piece of equipment, especially the elbows, but I wouldn't trade my R6 for it. The 5500/4000 line is definatly the top end equipment.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I agree with you on everything CdP. Although my old Koho Revolution's cuff went all the way around my wrist. It wasn't as good overall, but if Scott's went all the way around, it'd be perfect (though it may affect mobility?). Another thing I like about Scott's is how easy it is to open up completely so it dries easily.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP - is that the same R6 model you sold to a friend of mine?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
RG, sounds like my glove breaks where you want yours to and vise versa.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I don't think so, I've sold a R5 but never a 6

RocketGoalie: . . . . Thu, Jul 8, 5:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
heheh...my hand is on the small side and that's one of the main reasons I sent custom this time. I just checked and you're right, it's an R5. Were there any changes from the 5 to the 6?

papillon: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 1:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
can someone explain what is meant by a glove break?

Goal35: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 6:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 - thanks for the uplift, but i'm only a short, fat guy.. 5'9 - 200lbs.. the one pic where i'm looking out from behind my D should be a givaway.... lol

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 9:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon, glove break is the portion of the catch glove where it bends(folds.clam shells,closes) when you close your hand or fold your fingers towards your thumb.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 11:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So, CdP, any improvements from the R5 to the R6? I'm going to replace my Cooper (anyone remember Cooper?) R5 in the next year. The elbows move too much and I want better front shoulder protection...I've see some double-padded c/a's and I'm going to look around for one of them (or see if Scott can do that).

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 1:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
RG, the R5 and R6 differ in style for one thing, there is nothing else like the R6 out there that I'm aware of. Both offer real good shoulder coverage since they both use "caps" like you'd find on player shoulder pads. There is no getting hit on the shoulder anywhere with the C/A adjusted correctly, it can't move or shift out of position during play and it does away with the annoying top of the shoulder/collar bone shots that make your arm go numb. The arms of both units are about the same, both offer good pro and lots of adjustability to get the right fit. The chest belly portion is where they go 180 from each other. The R5 is your typical C/A with shoulder wings between neck and shoulder. The R6 is different in appearance for sure but "I" think the R6 has better chest pro than the R5. I get hit in the sternum/chest area a lot ; you'll still know where the puck hit you but it won't leave marks or knock the wind out of you. The R6 may seem to bulky for some at first until it breaks in good(felt that way to me at first) but the level of pro is unquestionable. If your a minimalist or like the equipment from a few years(un bulky) back then the R5 is right for you without sacrificing protection. I think the Cooper R5 and the new R5 are fairly similar with some upgrades in pro and materials being the biggest changes. Some people like to "feel" the puck more than others, I do not on the other hand. All I can say is that when I feel a shot in my C/A unit I feel the impact but not the associated sting/pain that usually follows. Either model will provide good pro though. Ask your friend how he is liking his R5, that should give you both perspectives on both units. I also wrote a review on the R6 on the review board awhile back, check it out too

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 9, 1:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The only other thing I can add is the two little bean shaped rib protectors need to be stiched together to keep them from folding in under the unit during play. One or two simple stiches did the trick for me.

deke: . . . . Sat, Jul 10, 10:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wregget goes to Detroit. Probably won't see much more ice than he did behind Freddie last season. On the R5 vs. R6 question, doesn't the R6 have very different set ups for catching vs. blocking arms?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jul 10, 2:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah it does but it's on the "butterflies" or portion on the top side of the elbow(where your arm bends). They are angled for "maximum protection when holding and maneuvering the stick and glove pad interface" I don't think it really makes that big of a difference. But you are correct Deke, they are different.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jul 10, 2:20PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I see Passamore went to the Hawks and Rousell signed with the ducks

Mercenary: . . . . Sat, Jul 10, 4:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I think Im about to buy a R6 or the vaugh 5500 C/A what do you guys think? I wear a Itech 9500 right now...

deke: . . . . Sun, Jul 11, 12:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mercenary: Both of the pads you mentioned are excellent, however, you should take a look at the Brown c/a as well. Once you look at them, it just becomes a matter of personal preference, but I can't speak highly enough about my Brown pad.

Mercenary: . . . . Sun, Jul 11, 8:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
deke the Brown with the built in Neck? from Garner? Please tell me more.... I dont want to buy a C/A for 300 and not have it be the best... lightness and coolness are a plus...

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 4:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cdp, you mentioned the attatchment on the new Graf 750 skates. Take a look at button is this anything like it?

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 4:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am thinking of ordering one, my only reservation is butchering my lovely Grafs.

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 6:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am looking for a good picture of the Gerry Cheevers mask with the stitches on it, can anyone point me to a site?

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon, go to button and click on picture gallery... the third photo is a front shot of cheevers showing the mask in very good detail... for a color shot (though lesser quality) go to Doug Norris' Goaltender Homepage

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon,That may very well be the device that GRAF is putting on this years model. If it's not the idea will no doubt be along the same lines. Looks like that guy was smart and got patents on it.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mercenary, there is a chatster(tripp) who is selling a Brown C/A that is fairly new if you are interested.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I just added 64 Mb of memory to my computer this morning and I must say I have noticed a difference, glad I didn't drop a grand getting a new one. Now I'll have money to buy hockey related stuff :-)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chat has been rather slow lately. Where is everyone?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 12:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon how did you come accross that web site anyways? That guy should link to more hockey pages if he wants to sell it aggressivly. I'll hand it to the guy though, that is one of those things that is so simple in design one thinks " why didn't I think of that?"

C5: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 2:12PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Played hockey last night went GREAT. It was 2-0 with 2 minutes remaining when they got two quick goals. Weird thing about that-- the sun was in my eyes, all through the last 10 minutes of the last period! That's a first. The rink is built with glass one one side, and you can even see the ships docked on the pier next to the arena! I didn't even see the passes in front over the glare on the ice. I saw the shots, but only when they got in front, and not in time to make any saves. The game ended in a tie, and we played a quick 5 minute overtime period. No one scored, so we went to a shootout! We got one goal, and they got none on me, which meant we won, 3-2. The very last save to win it hit my knee and found a seam, even drew blood, a little #-shaped, bloody bruise, through my socks.

C5: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 2:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Two saves stand out from last night (these are my favorite kinds posts, goalies, so please continue to share your game summaries, too!) One save was to my left, glove side, the guy got the puck but smartly waited for his man to set up a screen. The shot went through perfectly but somehow I froze it betwen my wrist and pants. It stuck there like getting caught in a door hinge. The second save I can still feel, a rocket from the slot right into my stomach. Ouch!

C5: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 2:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
G35, man, I didn't realize I was giving you that much!

bart-z: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 4:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone know where I can get a certified cage for an NXi Phantom mask?

bart-z: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 4:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone know where I can get a certified cage for an NXi Phantom mask?

Mercenary: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 4:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
bart-z www.tpbhockey.com has them.... Also guys do you know where I can get a goalie bag thats a backpack like the reactor 5 bag? Or know where I can get the R5 bag? What are the best prices $US that you have seen on the R6, Vaugh 5500, or the Brown C/A? Thanks for all the help guys and C5 hope you heal up ok. :)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 9:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mercenary try Royal sports at this button It's the Bauer deluxe bag and it goes for about $47 US

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 9:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Go with Garner sports for any of those C/A s Mercenary, John has the best prices.

deke: . . . . Mon, Jul 12, 10:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah Mercenary, I agree w/ CdP, Garner's is the place. But sounds like you should check out the used Brown that he mentioned. My pad is the same as the one you asked about without the built in throat, I think it's called the 551. Great pad. Fun summer league game tonight. We played against a team of younger and more skilled guys, including Scott Parker (played up w/ the Avalanche for part of the season). I'm proud to say we beat them by one, 7-6 with about three minutes left. I can't remember playing a better game, but these 45 year old bones will probably pay tomorrow.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 1:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
My ice teams "Screaming for Vengeance" tour continued tonight... we have beaten in the last 4 weeks all of the teams that beat us earlier in the season. Tonight we got to play the team that beat us 8-1 in the third week of the season... Final result... we win 5-3... made a couple of good glove saves and a couple of (according to my teammates) great skate saves... All this was bracketed by 2 really soft goals... I absolutely, totally lost my post on one of them and provided a real good surface for the guy to bank it in off me. Third period was wierd... remember the "Fog Bowl" playoff game between the Chicago Bears and Philadelphia Eagles? Well, the third period, all i could see was the helmets of the guys until they were about 20 feet from me... made it real interesting...

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 1:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
On another note, got to play pickup in the Elite game here in San Diego... Guess I impressed the guy running the games during the Intermediate games i played... Was fine until I got to the locker room and saw that it was former minor league hockey players and former pro roller hockey players... Played like crap for the first 5 minutes because I was kind of in awe... I mean, i used to watch these guys from the stands.. Finally popped my head out of my butt and decided to play some hockey (after giving up 2 goals on 2 shots) and ended up winning 13-5.. faced 8 breakaways and stopped 7. And then I ran in to the guys i usually play against in the Intermediate games and they were giving me crap. Calling me traitor :) And then one congratulated me saying i finally got the call to the majors. Said it was about time because I was killing them. Really great night all around.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 1:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cdp, I found the overdrive link on the goalie webring which you can find here button

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 7:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I've been working on my Butterfly slides as an alternative to stacking the pads. Well last night I was facing an odd man rush, which I miss-read as a even strength, so I came out a long way on top of my crease when the inevitable happened, the pass was made to the open man by the crease. As I see the pass released I execute a butterfly slide and rob the guy by the crease, I angled my stick blade to get the puck into my body, and smothered the thing. Apparently I the guys have never seen me move that fast. The foward skated off muttering some crap about damn goalies...he he.

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 7:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yea C5, but it was nice while it lasted... lol. Had a good game last night, played against a team we lost to while i was on vacation, had a 5-0 lead going into 3rd... ended up winning 8-3 had 38 saves, guy from other team came into locker room after and asked me if I wanted to play for his A team this fall... my captain yelled "no" he's with us. I told him to call me.. :)

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 9:06AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys....OK game/save notes...squeak out a 7-6 win last night, some good saves but some wierd goals, lovely line change gave them a 2 on 0....then a centering pass off the side of my pad and in, yay. A real beauty when I skated out to clear the puck, it bounces funny off the boards and I fan on it (Veronica Hextall I am NOT), their guy coming so I pounce on it, ref screams "play it! play it!" so like an idiot I try to flip it to my D...bad guys intercept and score on the empty net as I splash around on all 4s behind the net. A real classic. But I did come up large in the last 10 secs to keep the W. So, hmm I guess no complaints!

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 9:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon yes I woul dsay that the sliding butterfly is a quicker move than the full sliding stack. Particularly if you have the flexibility to get the leading pad down flat as you move over. Some goalies (Cujo) will go paddle down on this move also....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 9:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Way to go to everyone. Sounds like the chat members are on a streak right now. No ice for me to speak of, the boards are being replaced at my rink so no hockey. This is the longest I can remember going with out playing in a long time. I'm going through DTs LOL

Vile: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 12:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hello all, back from 2 weeks in BC. Happy belated birthday Smott. I have read all the Chat, now I have to try to catch up on trades/signings.

Vile: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 12:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
For everyone looking at C/A protectors, don't forget Battram's It is about the same price as everyone else's top of the line (~$300) and you get custom fitting.

Mercenary: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 12:31AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ok I know how to clean everything but my glove and blocker... What can I do with these to clean them?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 12:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I recommend Febreze to get rid of odors on all equipment. You may have to spray it several times after it dries but it does help cut down on the odor and is pretty cheap compared to other cleaners and less time consuming compared to doing it in a tub or garbage can.

Vile: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 2:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carbo denies the cup dent story. read it here -> button

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 3:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
With the stack I try to concentrate on the bottom leg as it swipes down and under-- if you keep it parallel and loose enough, the top leg invariably stacks just right. Speed is key. I've got plenty of Roy and Cujo pictures which show "bad" stacks.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 3:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, I can just picture you there, swimming behind the 'net. Veronica Hextall? Try Mee-shell Roy! He's the NHL's fastest swimmer, that's for sure. Speaking of being out of position, the other night I made one save which was psychological. I was trying to poke the puck to the corner and had my stick kicked away from me. I'm out of position, and briefly lean down to pick it up when the forward wheels around and lofts the puck in front of the net. I went to get back in the net, and could have gone faster, but instead I tried to time my closing the front of the net with the shot, and presto, the guy one second sees nothing but net, the next second I'm in it, and, not wanting to miss his open-netter, he just lofts it in to what he thinks is a sure goal. Instead, it's an easy glove save. The guys thought it was a "save" but actually it was something else, I don't know what to call it.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 3:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I should add that this save, by the way, wouldn't work with REAL hockey players...

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 4:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ugghh...just back from another stay in the dang hospital. Lotta chat to catch up on. Just a quick breee-through tonight. And yes, I do have a Brown c/a that was worn only twice, if you're still looking, Mercenary.

Mercenary: . . . . Tue, Jul 13, 7:17PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tripp what model what size and how much?

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 10:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The c/a is the new Elite model. Size 3. I'm about 6' and it fits me. I cut the little throat pad out of it though. About 1" of foam. It interfered with my klava collar. I'll scan a few pics of it if you'd like. Hockygolie@aol.com

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 10:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Looks like Cap'n Kirk McLean is gonna back up MyKrickter now that Cloutier is gone. Neil Smith has a blank check. Should be interesting to see the overpaid, overaged guys he brings in with $70 million in payroll.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 10:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Looks like Mc Lean went to the rangers, Tallis signed to back up Dafoe and Wregget ends up on the redwings after Ranford got booted. Stevie Y re-signs for 25 Mill. Roger Marino pulls his 2 mill out of the Lemiuex deal. The Caps see the team prez plus 2others take part ownership. To take a look at the high stick incident from last year and see video coverage of the actual stick to the head series click on this button

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 2:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Merc... I'll second the props to the Brown C/a's... Got a 403 and had the throat foam added... ran like $250 after shipping from garners and plays good... As for heat... Well I'll not be using it playing roller outdoor in Az any time soon, but seems to be good in the cooled roller arena's and the Ice rinks I play in.... Quick break in.... Good Price

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 2:20PM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for myself... Spent the weekend in Chicago and took a look at Stone Sports there... Pretty big shop as compared to Az shops... Lots of JB gear.. Very nice folks. Played Ice last night and lost 6-2.... Not alot of help clearing... All but one were rebound goals... Be it my fault or the d's... They were just there faster than my guys the whole night.... Had some great breakaway stones though....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 6:25PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have a question for the chatsters. I think I ran in to a little luck today. While out shopping with the wife I stopped in at a rink to check out the pro shop gear and found a Bauer reactor 5 stick with Belfours name stamped in the name box. It doesn't look like the run of the mill production sticks that have players names on them but rather a custom stick. My question is are any of you familiar with Bauer sticks and specifically the Belfour model? If I'm correct and it is a real Belfour stick then I got it for a steal, if not, it was an average buy so nothing lost. Any help is appreciated.

Mercenary: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 7:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe.... Ummmm thats an old stick Belfour has not used Bauer for some time now.... Hes strickly Christian now... Sorry, but if you got a good price on a goal stick no biggie!

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 10:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I know he uses Christian now but before that he used all Bauer gear. I'm fairly sure it's an authentic Belfour since the heel is rockered pretty heavy, unlike an of the other Bauers I've seen. Who knows, I put it away in the closet for now. I must admit though, it is a nice stick, I am tempted to use it anyways.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Jul 14, 11:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mercenary... you have that backwards... Eddie used Christian in Chicago... he is strictly Bauer now... Check out his picture on Dallas' Web site at button

Mercenary: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 6:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
gbfreeman no...... he uses Christian now....... I live in Dallas belive me I know

Goal35: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 6:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
gb... Merc is right, Eddie uses Christians now, with his eagle logo on them and all.... new design and logotype going up the barrel...

Vile: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 7:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
cool Mercenary, I live in Dallas too. And of course you are right, he uses christian sticks now. His first season here he was using all bauer, and I still see some pictures with the bauer stuff. Now of course he uses mostly Vaughn with a brown C/A. Where do you play Mercenary?

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ouch, when i put the statement about Belfour and Bauer up, i thought that maybe i had spoken too forcefully... But, the pic does show him in all bauer gear... Maybe you got one of his sticks from the first season... Personally, Christian must be paying him a lot of money, because I think they are crap sticks... every one i have had has broken very early in its life...

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
HIYA TRIPPSTER!! How're you feeling??....OK I hope....

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey gb what up? Yes I agree Christians break in a minute...

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
For my Shellack Entry...stood on my head in B on Tues vs the top team...go down 5-0. Shots maybe 45-5....geez I was tired, they were in our end the whole game...

Mercenary: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Vile, cool I play roller hockey at Slapshot in Arlington. Im thinking about playing ice just dont have the cash to pay for an ice season. What about you? gbfreeman... yep he did go bauer last season. I bet because Christian but the eddie wagle logo on their sticks he sees a part of the sales too... Its all about the money, I know eddie pays for his own sticks because he wants to sell them himself... But I bet he gets a good price for them! I know he sells them autod on his web page for like 200 buck or more. Oh well...

Mercenary: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
smott I hate games like that. last season I played a game where I was outshot 55 to 4. I was dead... :)

C5: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 9:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Selling your own sticks, that's so cheesy. Christians suck, IMHO. But most NHL goalies change sticks one each game, and sometimes one each period, and I like Christians when they're brand new. They are light and flexible, if that's what you want, and with the team picking up the tab, who cares? Here in NYC there's an Irish bar called Molly's, on 22nd street& 3rd, therabouts, that has an autographed, game-played Ed Belfour Christian goal stick. I've seen it. Touched it. The Force had left it by that time, though... ;-)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 9:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It does sound kind of cheesy but it's my understanding that a lot of the money he raises from selling items is given to the Make a Wish Foundation. I'm sure he still pockets a nice piece of change too though.

Mercenary: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 9:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes he does fund a few places.... Tripp.... I looked a the Brown web page and that C/A is one size small for you. Why did you buy it small? Im the same size as you, so I want to make sure. I also want to buy in a few day here so I need you to get back to me. NEW question. Has anyone played with the new TPS rubber goal sticks? The color is off (bright yellow) but it very light and the rubber grip makes sure it does not slip. I want anyones opinions on this bad boy! :) thanks guys! C5 hahahaha The Force!

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 9:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just like pads, the sizes on c/a's aren't exact. You just gotta go with what fits you. The 4 was too long in the arms for me, so I went with the size 3 so there would be no interference with my gloves.

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 10:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hiya smottsie. Still hanging in here. Another rough week last week, but I'm sure things will start looking up soon. Down to 114 lbs after my latest treatment. I'll finish this bag of M&M's in your honor. ;o)

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 11:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Roller hockey championships tonight... We are facing a team with only 1 loss this season, 3-0 to us... Should be a war... Final stats for the season got me best goalie trophy 11 games 8-1-2 .922 save 1.55 gaa... And it doesn't mean anything if we play bad tonight... Ice team back to .500 after starting the season 1-5-1... Finally remembered the coaches name for the camp I am attending. Jason Galea, works for the Rick Heinz goaltending schools... Learning a ton (like how out of shape i really am). Smott, way to go on the performance in shellac o' the week... Gonna buy some new sticks (not Christian) with Bday money my mom sent... Geez, 33 years old yesterday and mom still sends money...

Goal35: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 11:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Merc.. i looked at the new TPS rubber stick when i was looking to change from my Christians... went instead with the new TPS Kevlar - is holding up well.. not sure how the rubber shaft would affect poke-checking.

C5: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 12:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Gb, would your mother like to know when my birthday is? ;-)

C5: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 12:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Rubber. The thing I need is LESS grip on my stick, not more. Taped to the top of one of my sticks is a tennis ball. You can't tell from far away, but it's round. When you "throw" the stick on a pokecheck it really gives you something to work with, especially when a good "flick" is required. One time I made a save where the guy stickhandled around my pokecheck but I was able to flip the tip and get the stick down the other way to toothpick the puck off his stick. And each time you make a save like the the forward gives you no credit. "I shoulda got the shot UP!" they always cry. Ha. You didn't even think I'd be there!

C5: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 12:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have one stick that seems to be indestructible. It's been about 10 games and it's STILL tight as new. Trouble is, the adhesive from the grip tape I used seeps through and there have been a couple embarassments where I thought I was sliding my blocker up to the top for a pokecheck when in fact I was throwing the stick over the back of the net. Hoo-boy. A little talc took care of it... but as I said, I need less grip, not more.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 4:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
If you want a rubber stick or rubber on your stick I can recommend a product called Plasti-kote. It's available at hardware stores for a couple of bucks and comes in a raquet ball looking can. Just brush it on the stick be it blade or top of the paddle and let dry. Dries to a very durable finish. It's cheaper than buying a new stick and probably works just as good. The tennis ball on the knob is a new one for me. You actually have a tennis ball taped on the top of the stick or did you mean a tennis ball size tape job?

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 6:21PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey guys... if you go to the Miska website, my mask is the "what's new". Let me know what ya think of the paint job.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tripp the mask looks good, typical Todd. The pic you mailed me does it more justice than the one on the web site though. Cool paint job.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mercenary if your looking for that Reactor 5 bag, I know for a fact Royal sports has it since they sent that bag to me by mistake in lieu of the deluxe

GoalieHawk: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 8:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... I have a question about the stance. The thing is I am always changing my stance..... What do scouts look for in the stance and what do scouts look for overall in a goalie? How deep should the knee bend be and how far apart should the legs be? Thanks.

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 9:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Whoo Hoo... entered roller hockey retirement on the upswing... Won 2-0 to take the championship... Outshot 24-16... Exclusively ice for a while.... And goaliehawk, what i have been told is, feet a little more than shoulder width apart, knees bent so that your stick lies flat about 6 inches in front of your pads... adjust the knee bend to be centered over your skates on the balls of your feet... a person should be able to push you from behind or in front and not push you over.. you should just glide in the direction they push you... And I just found out from Internic that i got my own domain.... www.gregfreeman.com

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 10:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
To throw in my 2 cents on the Brown C/A's I also bought a size down from what they recommended for the same reason noted... the arms were a little long.... I play in a 2 and am 5'9" and about 175..... As far as the rubber sttick goes.... I'd have problems poke checking with it... need to keep ahold of the stick while it slides to out wit those pesky stick handlers

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 10:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Congrats GB way to go !!!!!!

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 10:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Back to stick talk... I'm using a helite IV Skudra stick right now... Had to cut the hell out of the paddle (bout 3")... I wish Bauer would get their shit together and start shipping products again.... I need to replace my Hasek R5 stick bad..... I loved that stick but cannot find one for the life of me since I left it at the rink....

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Jul 15, 10:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
fourqts, personally i like the brodeur helite III... very durable... most games i don't even take a backup stick.... Thank you for the congrats... about the Hasek stick... what lie do you use and which hand is your stick hand... I can keep an eye out for one and grab it if i find one... sometimes you can find older supplies of sticks here in san diego since there are not that many people playing... i still see the belfour christians in blackhawk colors...

Vile: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 6:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Merc, I play league out at the StarsCenter, and pickup at Ice-o-plex.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 6:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Scouts won't base their opinions on stances anymore. I promise you that. As long as you stop the puck, can handle the puck and control rebounds, and play at a consistent level, you'll get attention. Find a stance that's comfortable for you and go with it. I (used to)play low and wide because I'm so thin, and I wanted to make myself look bigger in the net. Craig Billington told me that the best stance is balanced on the balls of your feet so you can explode into your movements rather than glide. Also, since the crossbar is 4" high, to keep the hands at about 2" so they only have to move 2feet in either direction.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
and just a quick prediction...I can definitely see a clash of the immovable ego and the irresistable knowlegde coming up on this board.

: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP, try it, I dare ya... Just take a used tennis ball, cut a little slit in it, and stuff it down the top of your stick. Tape it up. It's light, but you can feel it in your stance. When you grab onto it, it squeezes like a tennis ball with no air, since that's what it is. You can really wield the stick using the ball, especially on pokes where you have to change direction mid-poke. Try it. And if the other goalies laugh at you, well...

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
That was me...

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, as for stance, well, the scouts will also want to meet you. They'll want to see what you can lift, they'll be looking for quickness from the legs, smooth movement, the ability to find the puck, anticipation, focus for three periods, that sort of thing. Look at baseball. There are plenty of guys who never hit above .250 but are all-stars because of their defense. Same thing in hockey. Your stance should be comfortable for you. I have a pic of Belfour shutting the door on Lemieux in one of the All-star skills competitions and you could drive a truck through his legs. Watch it on video, though, and there's nothing there.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH if your trying to refine your stance I recommend you check out "From the Crease" web site. There is an article on stance issues there and a lot more of valuable info. It's worth subscribing to, this months issue has a whole section dedicated to what the scouts look for. check it out at this button I agree with what Tripp and the rest have said so far as well, there is no "secret" to the stance, it's about being on the balls of your feet but most importantly a stance that is comfortable for you and your style of play.

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Stance... I'll be showing myself to be a rank amateur, here-- which I am, by the way-- but my stance changes slightly sometimes. Right now I'm using the Sherwood FISET pattern stick, which has really improved my stick handling. Now, when the ref whistles an end to warmup, I can help flick the pucks into the bench, no problem, and during games, I hit the glass no problem, either. Getting some speed on the puck is still difficult for me. Lately, however, I've been thinking about my HEXTALL patterned sticks, which have a paddle that's about 1.5" higher than the FISET. My glove and blocker are sometimes too low, and I'm not able to get my arms out to stop blocker-side shots. I am finding that a medium-height chicken-wing stance, arms close-in, shoulders out, really helps close in the medium-shot stuff from the slot.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 I think I'll stick with the round tape job knob on the tops of my sticks. If a tennis ball works for you then power to you. I can't imagine how much tape it must take to get a tennis ball to stay on the stick though. Besides I think a tennis ball on top would throw off my shooting since I like to get a solid grip and use a twisting motion.

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for hockey bags, I now live in Brooklyn, and if I want to play in Chelsea piers, it means a 25-minute subway ride and then a taxi. Forget the bags. I just use the same one I always use. But I bought an industrial-strength suitcase caddy, you know, one of those collapsible things, and I tie my bag to it with bungee cords. I just wheel it around. You can get bags with wheels, but they're so small, they don't wheel difficult places very well. Anyone know where I can play in Brooklyn?

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey, CdP, I definitely think you and I are on two different levels, goalie-wise. ;-) I have eight sticks-- I just moved, and was surprised to find 'em all-- and none of them have a tennis ball on top at the moment. But I'm going to do it again and see if it hurts my shooting. I just learned to shoot, so it wasn't bothering me before. It's just that I want to poke check a little better.

Mercenary: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 8:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hehehehehe Im not a world class goalie but I would say a tennis ball is wierd. It would get in my way. Oh well Hey a suitcase caddy is a great idea, why didnt I think of that!

Mercenary: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 8:24AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hehehehehe Im not a world class goalie but I would say a tennis ball is wierd. It would get in my way. Oh well Hey a suitcase caddy is a great idea, why didnt I think of that!

Mercenary: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 8:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
well now that is not fun... sorry for the double post.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 8:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have seen a goalie with a racquet-ball ball on the end of the stick, for the same reasons that C5 mentioned. It worked for him. I admit I have never tried it myself.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 8:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
heres a giggle for you lot. A new defenceman just join our summer league team. He is awesome, has all the right moves, and he plays very defensivly. Only drawback is his surname, its Darling, you guessed it, during a game I could be heard shouting things like man on darling, skate it darling skate it. Time for a nickname pretty darn quick I think, before the rest of the team get any funny ideas about me!

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh Papillon too funny! Of course with a chick in the net it might sound a little different! :-D

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
TRIPPSTER EAT!!!! 114 pounds man??? Get some food in ya!!!

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Um, about stance....all the advice thus far sounds good to me. Let me add a small tidbit - try to keep your center of gravity low, for easier lateral movement. If, like me, you have ridiculously long legs (I am 5'9" yet can wear 34" pads, you get the picture? A stork in goalie equipment) your center of gravity will naturally be very high, so you'll tip over more easily. For this reason your knee bend may have to be deeper than average, to keep your center low. If you're lucky and have relatively shorter legs/long body, then you can get away with a more comfortable stance. Bottom line is your stance should allow you the most explosive quickness latereally possible, and that is usually a medium-wide kind of thing. Too wide and you lose a bit of push, too narrow and you are too high to go laterally fast.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
But the primary thing the scouts will be watching for is "can the kid stop the puck?" Only the most glaring technical faults will make them hesitate on a kid that's able to stop the puck. You could be picture perfect on stance and technique, but if you're a sieve, forget it. Contrary to that, you could be an ugly duckling out there and if you wind up with the puck, they won't care. Hasek taught them that lesson.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
On sticks, I am still happy with my Koho Roy Intermediate, they last for literally months. Last 2 I have had to pitch because they got dead finally, not because they actually broke. Though I do wish they'd make them in white! Heh heh heh :-D

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 1:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, careful. Hasek also languished in Chicago for years because people couldn't understand his style. That and he was there behind Eagle's ego...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 4:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, I hear you on the stick color. I went a head and painted the front side of my KOHO500 white. I find it's easier to find the puck quick when your paddle down and the puck is in close to you.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 7:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck..... I got their "trial issue". Although I don't know where it is..... Anyways, can you tell me what it says about what the scouts look for?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 16, 9:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH leave your E-mail address so I can E-mail the info to you since it will take up more space than most on the chat are willing to wade through and I'm sure not everyone is interested in the topic to boot since it goes into long explanations.

deke: . . . . Sat, Jul 17, 11:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just another word on sizing Brown C/A's. I'm 6', 205+ and I'm using a number 3. The pad fits fine. Merc - don't be scared off by the company's sizing chart.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sat, Jul 17, 11:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck..... Send it to goaliehawk@yahoo.com

fourqts: . . . . Sat, Jul 17, 1:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB... I'm A left catcher (from my Baseball days) and I think there was no lie choice in the Hasek stick last year... or at least not in any catalogue's or shelves That I saw... Not much curve in the stick.. R5000 white with black lettering and red shadows.

fourqts: . . . . Sat, Jul 17, 1:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And here is an apparently weird situation... Roller team is moving outdoors for the short summer season.. The indoor place has only swamp coolers and they cannot move enough air nor cool it in the summer... It actually feels cooler playing outdoors... The indoor rink just feels like there is no Oxygen availiable for breathing at all... So The plan is to move outside or go play ice as a team... The problem with going to play ice is that the skaters insist that they want only two lines to "get their money's worth"... So now we see why I get shelled in the third all the time... Anyhow I'm telling them they need like 13-15 skaters for Ice and we have like 7-8 skaters now...

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Jul 18, 2:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
fourqts, my ice team is my former roller team.... we have 2 full lines most nights.. and as long as they keep the shifts short it is not a problem... once you get over 2 lines (but not quite 3) people get all confused and people are not used to playing together... so, all that aside, since we have 2 full lines playing together all the time we have gone from 1-5-1 to 5-5-1 and are playing very well as a team. The main reason i have suspended my roller playing is that i refuse to play outdoors in San Diego during the summer... not a whole lot of fun, and if you can't have fun while you play, why play... will keep on lookout for the Hasek lumber...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jul 18, 8:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Have you tried Great skate? I know they advertise the Hasek model in the catalog.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jul 18, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I wonder how Scott Battram is doing on the new pad design he was talking about. I hope he is close to finishing it so we can take a look soon.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Jul 18, 4:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
In other news, Craig Billington was traded to Washington for future considerations.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Sun, Jul 18, 10:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I guess that means we'll finally get to see Denis play a few games.

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Jul 19, 6:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Probably. He's been the goalie here in Hershey for the past few years. His backups (Petr Franek 2 years ago, David Aebischer last year)actually put up better numbers than he did and looked really good doing it. Marc looked good at this year's All-Star game, but a name and potential will only go so far. He needs some work. Still, he's only 22 or 23. He has plenty of time

smott: . . . . Mon, Jul 19, 9:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well another shellacking last night, 6-3 in C league. They had one guy with a rocket and I am tattooed this AM. He found all yteh thin spots in my R5 C/A and pants. Hip, forearm, tummy, outer leg, OUCH. The guy kept hittin' me. After awhile I started wishing he'd find the net for a change.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Jul 19, 3:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
ouchies smott... and you not with the advantage of extra padding like the short old fat guy here.... lol but glad to hear you are out there... :)

Mercenary: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 0:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wow what a great game tonight we crushed them 9 to 2 I let in a crapy goal and the 2nd was a wrap around that I almost had... It should have been a shut out but oh well! I ordered the R6 C/A and the Deluxe bag. Ill post a mini review of the C/A when I get it and after Ive broken it in Ill post a new one! Thanks for all the help guys! Vile I never heard where you play at!?

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 7:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh, Smott, sucks when these guys are trying to blast it through you. It always amazes me when a guy blasts me through my blocker. Ugh.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 7:24AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So I'm finally going to be on a real team here in NYC. These guys are good, the same guys I was talking about earlier, who skate real fast and pass well. We'll see. It'll be my first time seeing them 5 on 5, as I was playing for them on a 4 on 4 tournament. We'll see how they do against a chippy, pushy team.

Vile: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 7:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I play Instructional league at StarsCenter and play pick up games at Ice-o-plex. All ice.

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 9:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah C5 I am jealous! What wouldn't I give for a decent team! Shelled again last night in B, 7-2. 4-5 college puppies on the other side as is often the case in summer hockey. Boy they were fast. And young. I have more hairs on my chin than some of thee kids. Actually I played pretty good, but I'm getting tired of standing on my head and having zip to show for it except another layer of shellack! Oh well.

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 10:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Aaah smottsie... I feel for ya. But enjoy the ice time no matter what. At least you can play. I'd give anything to go out there and lose 15-0. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying my "lunch" through a stomach tube.

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 10:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Glad you found some good competition in NY, C5. I've played my share of hockey in that area, and some of those guys were really good. Hopefully I left the same impression on them.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 10:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottsie, Tripp, yeah, thanks! Tripp, where can I play in Brooklyn? I don't feel like hoofin' it into Manhattan or even NJ every time I want to play!

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 10:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottie, I am jealous of YOU! I honestly wish I could play some better competition. Most of my games so far have been snoozefests. My last game was awesome-- I had a great time, but let's just say that 4 on 4 leaves something to be desired. Now, if they were SWEDES, that'd be something else.

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 10:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So far, I haven't had a game where I've faced more than 30-35 shots.

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 12:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm, I haven't had a game where I have faced less!

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 12:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Trippster, what's up my friend?? WHy the tube? Too sore to eat? Hope you're keeping your hair....for myself I am delighted to report that I now need to shave my legs about once a week. Not exactly what we chicks normally celebrate doing, but it's been that kind of year...

C5: . . . . Tue, Jul 20, 1:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'll do mine tonight, too, just to show my support, Smottie.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 2:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
FYI, check out 1-800-hockey1(actual phone#) or on the web at this button they sell upper end BAUER goal gear ans just about every other manufactuer as well, even TACKLA. They are pricey but the best part is the catalog they will send you, all color with lots of pics of the gear and the wide selection of it . Also included is fitting/sizing charts from each company to give you an idea how each company varies in sizing. It's worth the toll free call for the catalog, check it out.

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 9:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
THanks for the site CdP...I may be retiring these old R5 pants soon, judging from the bruises I am carrying around today! I have heard Takla pants are exceptionally good...

smott: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 9:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh C5 watch for nicks & cuts...

Mercenary: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 10:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe, yes thanks I hope to get that catalogue soon!

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 10:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Twin games last night... Ice at 8:40 lost 6-4... Felt like could stop nothing... Very slow and could not keep my pads on the ground... Roller at 10:30 against a real scrappy team... Jerk was trying to slap the puck out of my glove after a standing glove save... to say the least he has a nice little black mark from the TPS on his helmet now.. Won 7-5. Roller tournament this week ice next... Gonna be Tired.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 12:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ok... A glove prefrence question... Who likes the "Cheater bar" on their catchers... Battram is putting it on all their gloves now (unless otherwise requested)... This feature appears to be the difference between the Vaughn Legacy and Vision series as well...... What is the consensus? Also to all those with Battram catchers and blokers... Do they fit big/ small... What measurements does scott take to build them ect... Thanks

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 3:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott if your interested in TACKLA pants I have a pair size 50 that are in excellent shape that I don't use. Let me know if your interested.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 3:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
what's a cheater bar?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 3:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts I have the Battram glove with the cheater on it and I think it serves a purpose some what. It does take up more space and I won't knock that. My only suggestion would be to give it a downward lip like the R5 has. I've had several pucks hit the cheater only to skip over harmlessly, I think a lip would stop that. Otherwise it works fine. Battram gloves fit good. You send Scott a tracing of your hand so he can build a glove that fits your hand size. Mine showed up driving glove tight(blocker) and is now very comfortable without being loose. With the catcher I think its more along how you like your glove to break than size is concerned. The catcher is a comfortable fit on the hand as well.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 3:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Take a look at the Vaughn 4000 or Scott's gloves. It's a little piece of plastic between the thumb and cuff of the catcher.

Grass: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 4:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts -- When I ordered my gloves from Scott I sent him a Xerox of my paws (the tough part was pushing the start button with both hands on the glass)... Both fit great. The only issue that I am having is that the 'heel' of the catching glove is getting pretty torn up. There appears to be a hard piece of plastic that is trying very hard to break out of the leather there. To be fair, I am probably pretty hard on equipment since I play 3+ times a week...

Grass: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 4:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Bottom line: Great gloves, buy 'em!

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 5:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I never liked the cheater on my trappers. I usually wore the Vaughn 35/5500 or the Koho Potvin. I've worn the Vaughn 4000's, Bauer R5's, Air Hook's, etc... I liked em all, but I thought they were just a bit too clumsy. Maybe I was just too scrawny? To each his own, I guess.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 5:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts - I've got a Battram too and I agree with CdP 100% on the blocker. This glove is much better than my old Koho Revolution but I have to jam my hand in to get the "perfect" fit. I'm not sure how Scott can improve that without an in-person visit but it's gotta have something to do with where he puts the curves and breaks on the inside. When the time comes to replace this glove, I'll get another Battram but I'll want to work with him a little more on the break of the glove and making sure my short fingers close the glove easier than this one. The only other thing is the size of the catcher. I got a medium and it's smaller than my Koho was. I'm not much of a stickhandler so if I had it to do over again, I'd get the large.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 5:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
As far as the cheater, I don't notice enough difference to say it helps much, but it can't hurt.........

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 21, 6:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Grass, my catcher is doing the same thing in the heel area as well. I think it's from stickhandling. Like you, I play more than 3 times a week so that is a lot of use.

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 9:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP size 50?...THat might be a tad large...I am 5'9" 135 lbs...a bit of a beanpole. And what color?

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 9:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for cheaters, I like'em. Anything for an edge! Especially for a girl with molasses-hands like moi. In my Koho Roy glove, it's all kind of built into a giant ridge around the thumb. Very good protection.

smott: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 9:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And by the way Grass-meister - I should be coming your way in the future - there is a job fair in DC Sept 14-15, where I will be trolling for opportunities. Sooner or later me, my brother and Pop are going to make the move to the Arlington area to be near my other bro, sis in law & little nephews.

Goal35: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 9:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey, thought i'd throw in my 2¢ on the Battram gloves, I have the wave blocker with the angle cuff and am probably going to order the catcher, I only had one prob with the leather spliting around the edges of the face and sides, apparantly the edge of the plastic board splits it from inside - Scott replaced the face, and in the past few months have only noticed one spot where it seem to be doing it again...

J.T.: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 9:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah, the rolling caravan heads Arlington-bound. If you need any feedback or help Smott, just let me know. I've lived Arlington (aka the "other" Virginia) for almost six years now....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 2:20PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott I consulted the tackla fitting guide and size 50 is a M/L for 33" waist or smaller. The pants are all black with the tackla emblem on the legs.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 22, 2:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Goal35 my Battram blocker has done a little of the splitting you mentioned as well but nothing thats made me want to send it back yet. One of the reasons I opened my blocker up was to peek inside to see what was causing the splits. That piece of plastic is the culprit alright.

Goal35: . . . . Fri, Jul 23, 9:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP..yea it was pretty bad right away, had a good 10 or so 1/8-1/4" splits with hardly any usage, but been using it 1-3 times a week since march and only noticed 2 , and i think 1 is an old one

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 23, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm CdP I think I'd lean towards maybe a S/M....but they might be worth a trial...

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 23, 9:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
JT so you are an ARlington man? My bro/sis in law and 3 nephews are off RTe 50/Carlin Springs. I am a software nerd and my guess is I'd have a fairly easy time finding employment in the I-270 tech corridor. Of course the cost of living out there is twice what it is here in good ole Pgh. It would take some getting used to. But it seems I'm missing my nephews' growing up. Which is after all the point right?...

gbfreeman: . . . . Sat, Jul 24, 1:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The Philadelphia Flyers lost one of their young defensemen, when he was killed in a boating accident Saturday... Dmitri Tertyshny fell overboard and was run over by the boat... the full story is at button

: . . . . Mon, Jul 26, 2:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hello? anybody home?

J.T.: . . . . Mon, Jul 26, 12:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, yep, I'm in Arlington about 1 or 2 miles from your brother/sis in law. I-270 tech corridor for a job? You must be slightly crazy. That can be up to an hour commute in rush hour. Try looking in Tysons Corner/Reston area. Lots of software jobs...the market is still VERY hot here.

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Jul 26, 5:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi everyone. Just thought I'd check in. Looks like a slow chat week. I got to see the new Koho WAH pads up close today. I wanted to try em on, but it's kinda hard to do when you're in a wheelchair. I'll tell ya, they're some nice pads though. Much lighter and more flexible than the old-style WAH's. This kid also had the new Bauer 4 gloves. I liked the feel of the trapper, but didn't see anything special about the blocker. Some sharp stuff, to be sure. Too bad the gear doesn't make the goalie..this kid was awful. He actually turned his head and flinched on a slapper from between the circles. I couldn't help snickering.

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Jul 26, 5:37PM PST (-0700 GMT)
oh...almost forgot... those new Brian's pads that SFSL raves about...you may as well wear bags of concrete on your legs. Those pads are HEAVY and stiff. I guess they'd be better after they're broken in, but the weight was amazing compared to my Bauer R3's and Vaughn 5500's.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 2:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, if your interested in the Tackla pants drop me a line at Carpdepuck@aol.com What, the gear doesn't make the goalie? DOH! and here I thought it did. LOL Hey Tripp good to hear from you. I kinda figured those Brian's pads would be rocks. So much crap on them how could they not be. I noticed an interesting modifications on Belfours catcher. Anyone else noticed that the snag on Belfour's catcher looks like no other snag I've seen. It actually appears to not be conected to the glove in any way other than with the lace. Any of you folks in Dallas have a 411 on this?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 2:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I believe you ca see a pic of what I'm talking about in the new goalie's world mag

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 9:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys...Trippster sorry to hear your on wheels instead of on your feet! Drop me a line...

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 9:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yep there was another kid here in Wah pads, could barely skate in'em. Pads just too big and bulky, which was my experience when I tried them. However the wah gloves are the best I ever had. ACtually my blocker is LeFevre.

smott: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 9:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Actually I dread breaking in a new pair of pads. I have become very accustomed to me beat-up Louisvilles, even though they're too small. In fact that is one argument for buying a used pair...avoid that clumsy break-in period.

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 1:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
wow smottsie, thats gotta be the first time you mentioned the Louisvilles and didn't complain about the color... lol, the black must be growing on ya.. as for moi, have a game tonite against the 1st place team, and me fighting some sort of viral thing that i finally went to a doctor about today.. yeeha, not looking forward to wearing the mask tonite.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Tue, Jul 27, 8:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... Just to update you guys in the news..... I am garanteed a spot on the Portland "B" Jr.Hawks in case I don't play Junior B..... I am still going to attend the main training camp for the New Mexico Ice Breakers(WSHL) and the Peninsula Chinooks(WSHL) are offering me their back-up position..... Anways, I have some concerns that I'd like to express..... First, my stance is killing me. I am always searching for the "perfect" stance. It happens like this. I first a stance that works, but when I began to play bad I think it's because of the stance I am using and I change my stance... What are the do's and dont's for the stance? ..... Always, how far is TOO FAR for a goalie to cut down his angles? Should a goalie stay on top of his crease or challenge into the face off circles? ..... I am also having trouble with low shots. Sometimes I don't even react to them..... Any advice? Thanks.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 5:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, lets address the first issue. STANCE, you said it yourself. You find the stance that works for you but then when something bad happens you change it up all of a sudden and nothing gets better. ADVICE: Stop second guessing yourself and play "your" style. Bad things are going to happen sometimes. There is also the possibility that your compensating for a weakness in another area that you are unaware of that puts you into those stance dilemas. Once again there are no "SECRET STANCE" methods, it's all basic. It's about being in your "set" position when the shot is taken. How far you come out is based on angles. ADVICE: Based apon your size and geometry there will be some constants in this issue. Best way to illustrate this is to use the ropes on the posts(Tru-angle device) and pull them to different positions on the ice to show the angle that is created and how far out you have to go to "fill" up the space the puck sees. Personal preference also plays into how far you come out. Rule of thumb is the farther you come out the less net the puck and shooter sees but it also requires that you be patient backing in and be a good skater. The farthest you would be required to come out from a geometric aspect is a shooter coming straight down the slot. That would require you to be above your crease the most in order to fill the space the puck sees. All other shot situations as they get closer to the corners are on a narrower angle and require you to come out less because of the limitation of space created by the shooters location. The amount you come out can also be dictated by what you are trying to force the shooter to do deke or shoot. LOW SHOTS: LOW SHOTS: This sounds like a combination of problems based apon your first question about stance. ADVICE: My first question is are you seeing the puck and are you focused on the puck prior to the shot? This could possibly be a concentration problem and is easily fixed by working on eye drills and making an effort to stare at the puck while it is on the players stick. But the more likely problem is that you are tweaking your stance out so much that you are unbalanced to the point that you can't move effectively. If you lock your knees at the top together(pads) it takes the strain off of the muscles in your legs but also makes your feet feel like they are in concrete. A lot of the young goalies tend to do this when their legs get tired. Have a shooter take some shots on you (low ones) from around the ice,play the stance you feel comfortable with, don't worry about the ones that go in but focus on your down motion and your stance. I think one problem(stance) has led you into this second problem and once you fix it all will be back to normal

C5: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 8:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, I agree, it sounds like you're thinking and worrying too much. STOP THE PUCK. That sounds like saying "STOP THE PAIN" when you're hurt, but in this case, you need to be obsessed with the puck. Do the drills, drills, drills, play catch, ride the bike, and don't worry, you're judged by your play at this level.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 11:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck..... I do a lot of second guessing myself. It's just when I have an off-day I blame it on my stance/style. I feel the need to be consident every single day and when I'm not, I blame in on my stance/style..... Why do goalies have off-days? What is to blame? ..... When I play my best I don't worry about a thing. I just do "whatever" it takes to stop the puck. Almost the way Dominik Hasek plays. Also, my stance is very low and wide and in this stance I feel my reaction time is much faster..... But I worry that that stance, once again, isn't the "scout" way..... I feel much better talking to you guys. I'm just going to focus on stopping the puck, not my stance.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 4:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hasek has said he will retire after 2000, this is(will be) his last season. Publicity stunt, trying to get more money, trying to get snagged by another team? Who knows. I guess we will see.

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 4:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
smottsie...I got a new computer and lost your e-mail addresses. Please drop me a line at Hockygolie@aol.com. Thanks

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 5:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
fourqts, i found a Bauer R5000 here in San Diego, however, it is not the Hasek model... it is the Richter... nice stick... Blue, with red lettering and white accents... kevlar and graphite reinforced... $55, do you want me to snag it?

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Jul 28, 6:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP...excellent post about the stance. GH, we've said it before, we'll say it again...THERE IS NO "SCOUT" WAY!! You're out-thinking yourself, and it's messing up your game. Believe me. I've been through these tryouts, camps, etc... if you can stop the puck and keep your play at a consistent level over a season, they don't care if you stand on your hands as your basic stance. Think about it. A guy like Mike Vernon at 5'6" has to play angles differently than Olaf Kolzig or Sean Burke at 6'4". Jason Muzzatti has the ugliest stance I've ever seen. He found his way to the NHL, right? Kirk McLean and Jeff Hackett are "technically sound". Hasek and Cujo look like they're trying to find a lost contact lens. So who's doing it right, who's doing it wrong? You've got to figure out what works for you. As long as the fundamentals of a good stance are there --weight on the balls of your toes, good explosive skating instead of gliding, knees over toes, upright chest, always lead with the hands-- you should be fine. Just remember..follow the puck with your stickblade, and you're squared. You're obviously not bad, or you wouldn't be getting any attention at all. Just find your comfort zone and practice practice practice the same way til you react instead of think. There are no style points. It's all about stopping the puck.

Guardian: . . . . Thu, Jul 29, 6:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all...well, Hasek is retiring. I was really surprised to hear this...hadn't realized that he was 35. I just thought he was younger, but I guess he did spend a lot of time in Czech before the NHL. I bet he'll still play for the Czech national team.

Guardian: . . . . Thu, Jul 29, 1:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Actually, he apparently says he won't play for the national team. Oh well...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Jul 29, 1:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Get this, Hasek plans to sell hockey equipment under the name of DOMINATOR. That should be interesting to see.

fourqts: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 0:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB no don't bother on the richter stick... don't like ti belfour or the richter... or the khabibulin... i love the hasek's i've had though.... thanks for the look out.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 9:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yo Trippster I'll be sending you email...

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 9:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm Life Without Dom...it sure will be strange. I wonder where Toastie weighs in on this. He is a big Dom fan. An articlae in the paper today mentioned that a lot of Czeck stars including Jagr do not intend to stay in the US after retirement....prefer life in the Czeck Republic. "A different sense of humor" according to Jagr, among the reasons why he could never marry an American girl...

C5: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 1:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey, Jagr, tell us a joke... So far, I haven't been rolling on the floor with his off-ice antics...

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Oh Jagr is OK...does like to drive his car fast though! Not unlike His Domness I recall....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott you ever decide if you were interested in the Tackla pants I have for sale?

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Gosh guys I really can't wait to get a bit of energy back and start playing games without gasping and wheezing the last 2 periods....6 more radiation treatments to go. 4 more games plus playoffs (maybe) remaining for my current two C teams. Then off until September. Maybe that will be good - I'll be feeling a tad stronger by then!

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi CdP....yeah maybe. What are you asking?

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
ANybody else have this problem? All the local rinks seem to have leagues on the same nights. I have 4 teams that would like me to play, but 2 are in the same league, and that league coincides with the 2 others! So I wind up with only a couple games a week.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
O I guess I can part with them for a $100. You pay the S&H

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I just wish the rink here was open so I could get some ice time in. I can't believe how long they are taking to put new boards in.

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:56PM PST (-0700 GMT)
YIKES is that all?? How used are they?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
They are fairly new, don't smell and nothing wrong with them. If your not happy with them just send them back and I'll give your money back :-)

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
....hmmm and here I am with all the time in the world and it's all I can do to go out and get the mail!

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cool...send me email at mott.se@mellon.com so we can exchange addresses etc...

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 2:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And how bulky are these pants? Even though my R5s are getting perislously thin and I'm paying for it bruises, I still like them because they're not too bulky and increase my mobility. Do you think I'll be stumbling around inthese Tacklas?...

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 3:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
ooops missed him....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 3:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
nope, they are average nothing bulky or cumbersome

smott: . . . . Fri, Jul 30, 3:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sounds good.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Jul 31, 9:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, sent you an E-mail with the particulars, let me know what you think

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 1, 7:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
It's days after the announcement and I still can't conceive as to why Hasek would want to retire. Can you imagine him three years from now playing in that old, geezer-fest "Heroes of the NHL?" It'd be a shutout every damned time. Gordie Howe would be like, "If I was in my prime, you'd be toast!"

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Aug 1, 3:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Check out ESPN.... Canada was stripped of its roller hockey gold medal when goaltender Steve Vezina tested positive for 2 stimulants and an anabolic steroid... Good going Steve... When you played for the San Diego Gulls I contributed your attitude and standoffishness to being in game mode... Turns out you are just an idiot... and before anyone goes defending little old steve... read the article

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Aug 1, 10:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
funny article GB... Sounds like an idiot to me... Played in my first non-end-of league tournament this weekend... Sort of round robin style three teirs play one team from each then the best record in your teir wins the tourney... First game against an all female team.... 15-1 lost the doughnut on the first shot of the game.... Was like trying to hit a change up all night.... expect shots to be coming but they weren't.. Second game against the teir above us... Win 2-1 played huge, was thinking about retiring and returning to the checz republic after next season... Final count 39 saves... Great game... Last game against our teir... Team throws a huge party night before because we beat the team above us.... No O in the final game... lose 4-1 27 saves... 2nd place finish... Locker room was just buzzing after the game... They were happy they had gotten a trophy.... Should have won it... Stupid penalties and not keeping sticks on the ice.... Had I been in the slot in full gear i would have buried two at least... Oh well

wolfman: . . . . Mon, Aug 2, 4:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I played a p/u game last nite with a senior AAA team. they won the Allen cup 2 years ago. Wow talk about fast. One more week of reg summer hockey then playoffs. I havnt done well but its a C- team. Maybe playoffs will will be kinder on me.HA HA.Winter league will start sept 11.

Beatts: . . . . Mon, Aug 2, 9:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'd just like everyone to know that I'm a Canadian Goalie who "presently" is NOT on any anabolic steroids...hehe Way to go Steve, you meathead.....

4: . . . . Mon, Aug 2, 10:47PM PST (-0700 GMT)
lol

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Aug 2, 11:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, we had to do it the hard way... last week we could have clinched a playoff berth versus the league patsy... and lost 6-2... tonight we are down 2-1 after 2 periods versus the team in first in the other conference.. and lo and behold, we score 5 unanswered to win 6-2... worst we can finish is 3rd and worst record would be 7-7-1 after starting 1-5-1... not bad for the first season playing together... playoffs in 3 weeks, all star game in 2 weeks... may have played my way on tonight... get to play the 12-2 behemoths next week with absolutely no pressure... should be a party...

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 3, 9:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
4q, gb, NICE GOIN'!....wolfman, sounds like fun for you too...

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 3, 9:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
An up & down kinda weekend for moi. First off I managed to catch a case of poison-ivy. First ever. They won't give me steroids for it due the state of my immune system, I am making do with topical stuff, etc. Itching like mad and driving me nuts. Huge outbreak on my glove hand. You can imagine how thrilled I was to get dressed up in all that grubby goalie equipment last couple of nights.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 3, 9:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
First game feeling pretty good, we are up 1-0 early. Turns out the other side has 2 college kids playing for them. They score, um, 9 goals between them, and though we score 7 we go down 11-7. Damn squirts just blew by us all night. Nothing to do on school break except play C league for cripes sake. Without them we pound this team. But this is why I love summer hockey.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 3, 9:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Last night feeling pretty out of it. Overreact completely on an easy glove save and whiff it early. One of those nights where stopping a beach ball on a conveyer belt seems to be about a 50-50 proposition. But we come back and score a couple, and suddenly I become a wall. We win 4-1. This team pounded us last time out. So go figure.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 3, 9:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP having mail-password problems....will get back to you as soon as I can...

Mntender: . . . . Wed, Aug 4, 12:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah a voice from the past :) Howdy all, just got back from one of my longest traveling hockey trips ever. Oldest son played 3 games on the Gold Coast of Australia, then 3 days of R&R in Honolulu, then off the plane here in MN and off to a summer tourney for the youngest. Lots of fun. I will check back in tomorrow and catch up on the stuff I've been missing here.

Grass: . . . . Wed, Aug 4, 1:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Mn -- Good to hear from you! By the way, what time zone does your body think it is in now??

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 5:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Long time no chat. Nothing much goin only, no games for what seems like ages, bummer!

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 5:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone here wear a gumshield while playing in goal? I think that my teeth are protected enough with my mask, but I was wondering about concussion? As I have heard that gumshields can help prevent some concussions. Is this really an issue for goalies?

Grass: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 6:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
P -- I always wear a mouth guard. I want to ensure that I don't crack a molar when I grit my teeth as I get run down by that big oaf that insists on charging the net on every shot. I had the dentist make a mold of the chompers and fashion a clear plastic piece that covers the upper row.

Grass: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 6:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I love it! It is small enough and fits well enough that I don't notice it at all. (It certainly doesn't prevent me from screaming at my D!) The dentist said that they are typically used by people who grind their teeth in their sleep. (Perhaps I need to stop sleeping in the crease...)

snowman: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 7:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I started to wear a mouth guard after a couple of pile ups that took its toll on my noggin. I quit wearing the mouthguard when it became to irritating to my mouth. Maybe I should talk to your dentist Grass!! I'll try mine 1st

snowman: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 7:22AM PST (-0700 GMT)
In the midst of summer POs. They have a scoringsystem of 2pts a win 1 a tie and 1pt for no penalties and a point if you win the period. Anyone ever heard of something like that, this is a 1st for me.

Fourqts: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 8:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Different Snowman.... But If not getting penalties gives you points... My teams would never get those points... roller or ice.. I think they just like three on four or four on five too much... As for the mouthguard... I'm a no... But don't get run over much either... I guess it is that first time that you start wailing on the idiot that ran you into the back of the net that makes this not happen so much...

smott: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 9:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah if only I could whale on these guys that outweigh me by 60 lbs! I do try to whack at them but the effect is similar to a flea on an elephent.

smott: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for mouthguards, hmmm sounds like it could be beneficial. I don't currently wear one, but I did get a mild concussion a year or so back, getting run over. I believe the guys knee went under my chin and next thing I knew I was in the back of the net trying to get my eyes to un-cross. My helmet (yes all chinstraps were on) wound up at the boards in the corner. Actually I didn't notice it was missing until the ref skated over and handed it to me.

smott: . . . . Thu, Aug 5, 9:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
But now I wonder if the knee-uppercut effect might have been lessened with a mouthguard. I felt lousy for several days.

snowman: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 3:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
smott- that is another good reason for a bigger heavier stick...to whack those pesky oafs in the skates or calves!!! :D

snowman: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 3:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts= our team hasnt earned a point for ni PIMs yet!! I doubt it will, they like to scrap it up, especially in the 3rd period

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 4:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
on the Steve Vezina drugs thing...I think in the article someone said that they could not understand why a goalie would use those drugs. well I expect most of you know that ephedrine and pseudo-ephedrine are central nervous system stimulants, so taking them in large doses is likely to get you really wired and improve reaction times etc.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 4:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
In the uk we have had a number of canadian import players fail drug tests for ephedrine, I am not sure if its true but I heard that at the major junior/pro level lots of the atheletes load up on cold medication to improve performance

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 4:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
On the mouthguard thing, my dentist said he saw a guy that got kneed under the jaw just like smott, and the guy had two teeth split totally in half right up the centre of each tooth.

fourqts: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 7:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I wans't arguong that I am smart by not wearing a mouthpiece at all... As sfor the heavy lumber for Smott... Louisville TPS Cujo.... I get whacked at once or twice... then I bring out the big black baby for some retaliation... My light little helite 4's are no good for this... But in General I don't get it much... But it is a fact that finding tenders in Az is a tough thing to do... So 99% of the time if someone does something stupid, they get right up and help you up and apologise quickly... But if I go to the bench and get The TPS There will be someone with swolen calfs and my are will be shot for a few days.. (lugging that thing around out there...

smott: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 5:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm, ouch Papillon sounds nasty....I was lucky and had no tooth damage. Merely braincells!

smott: . . . . Fri, Aug 6, 5:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes and most collisions are accidental I guess. But I rarely whack at the guys, I usually try to stay low and see around them, sneaky-type. Once long ago I did manage (by accident I swear) to totally upend a guy in a scramble, and what happens? His buddy skates by and decks me. It hurt, too. I didn't think it was so funny at the time, but now I do. The benches cleared, it was really quite a scene. Oh for younger days!

smott: . . . . Sat, Aug 7, 5:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yo, C5!....I was checking out the goalie Chat pics...and I notice that when you click on them to get a larger image you get a 404.....what's up with that?....changing servers?

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 8, 7:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, you get that error on all the images, or just some of them?

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 8, 7:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ulp! You're right. Well, that's an afternoon of uploading. Still, I'm going to the beach today, so it'll work out. Sending 'em now. Remember, the Stanley Cup Finals page has lots of working images! button

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Aug 8, 4:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Something to printout and give to your teammates GOALIE SPEAK by Eric Cardwell If you're close enough to the net and listen intently enough to what's being said on the ice, you may hear these terms shouted from behind the goalie's mask. Here's a tongue-in-cheek translation of what they mean. SLOT! "There's a guy right on the lip of my crease who is about to launch a laser if you don't drive him into the ice right now." TURN AROUND! "There's a guy right behind you that is either about to dump you or make a play for the rebound out in front. Would you mind looking over your shoulder and getting him to move?" ROUND THE BACK! "Look, it's obvious you can't shake the guy that's on your six, so dump the puck behind the net before he picks your pocket and shells me, eh?" LEFT! (or) RIGHT! "You're blocking my view of the face-off. It's kind of important that I be able to see that. So... with that in mind, would you mind moving about a foot in the indicated direction?" GO GO GO GO GO! "The players for the other team are asleep, too... if you wake up right now and really hustle, there's a chance for a breakaway. Just don't dump it or waste time looking for someone to pass to, okay?" @*!!@#*!!! "I'm in MAJOR trouble over here, and if you don't ice that puck RIGHT NOW, this joker's gonna stroke one home."

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 9:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I tend to use the last an awful lot.... right before i hear that dreaded sound of a puck falling straight down behind me.

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh heh...yes I use a few of these myself, with cpmsiderably more expletives deleted. Though I never am quick enough to think left or right....mostly I just shriek MOVE!!

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well here's my Shellack entry...due to my poison ivy, I am now on steroids, and I must say they have me cranked up. I played out of my gourd for most of 2 periods last night before the tank ran dry. We are up 1-0 with 5 mins left in the 2nd when my engine began to sputter and they finally tied it. Ref tells me he has counted 50+ shots already, which explains the gasping and wheezing I've been doing...unfortunately by the end it was 8-1. Oh well. We had 7 skaters and everybody was about as whipped as I was. What to do?

Guardian: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 11:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all--anyone interested (or know anyone who might be) in some equipment. I'm thinking of parting with my Battram pads/glove/blocker. I don't play enough anymore to justify keeping them around. All nice and new, bit of wear on the blocker but hardly any. Will consider cash or trade for older equipment, with some cash to make up the difference. Black/blue colouring, pads are 37 1/2", so we're talking for a big boy here. Let me know if you or anyone is interested - indexing@hotmail.com .

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 12:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm well Chatsters, it's a fine day in smottsieland....just back from my FINAL RADIATION TREATMENT. Woo hooo!

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 12:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile, my brother rents a beach house for 2 weeks, and my doc will sign off on the disability-time.....thus I will delay going back to work, in order to work on my tan....oh yeah and maybe grow my hair back a little more!

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 12:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Eeek 37" Guardian? Too big for moi.

: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 5:47PM PST (-0700 GMT)
HEY SMOTT, YA UGLY FUCKER. YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT. 5+ TEAMS WANT YA, EH? YOU SUCK. YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 6:36PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GO away Jack off... The chat regs don't need that kind of crap... or at least put your name on your post and be a man about bad mouthing someone.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 6:36PM PST (-0700 GMT)
PUNK!

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 7:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Jeez...someone's awfully brave behind a keyboard. What a jerk. Anyhoo, way to go smottsie. Hopefully the worst is behind you. Now if you could only find some defense!

Toast: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 7:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Um...perhaps the brave soul needs a little intro to our Miss Smott...yes, he is a she and a pretty good tender too. All East at one time I believe in college...anyway, I have a chance to buy a pair of Louisville TPS 36 inch pads, worn twice, for $600 U.S. ($900 Cdn.). How does that price sound to the equipment junkies here?

Chris: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just dropping in. No need to worry, just confirmed that Mr. Brave Punk is not a regular chatter. Boy, I sure haven't archived the log in a while :) 552 posts since June 15...I guess I'll clear it on the 15^th of August to make it even.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
depends on the model toast.... Air defense 900 a good buy, butterfly's of the past two years are a good buy... Exhales are a good buy.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
lo chris the web master fool... keep up the good work

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
AH missed him

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
AH missed him

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 10:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Back to the Conversation to toast... The sports exchange has TPS Flexor's new for $681... But If it were my $600 I'd head on over to scott's site and order up a set od Battram 2000's. I'd put my bolds up against the x-hale or the air defense in a quality of workmanship contest any day... Have looked at both the TPS products and they just don't compare.... Or even better, Mention to Scott that you caw his add in Goaile's world and get the 2000's for about 550 US or the Bolds for around 700 US... I know you've seen the hype over Scotts stuff on here before, and take it from a proud owner.... I still get comments on how good my pads look after three roller and one Ice season.. Just a little time after each game taking care of a scuff here or there and they still look new.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Aug 9, 11:45PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Found out i made the all star squad for the all star game in my rec league thursday... went out and played out of my mind versus the 12-2 first place team for the first period... down 1-0... puck past me before i could blink... second goal on a pretty deflection by my teammate... and then the roof fell in.. final score 7-1... outshot 68-14.. and got called for third man in during a fight... should be interesting call on if i get suspended or not... refs did not mention it...

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 8:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast! Good to see you again, man. I hope the gloves are working out for ya. Too bad I sold my Vaughn 5500's. They had the ugly Trevor Kidd pattern--which, I confess, I like-- in black & silver, but they had the pro stuffing and straps. Man, they were damn fine pads.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wow my goodness I have been smeared on The Chat! And so creatively too! That fella really knows just what to say to a girl.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 9:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
How's it going Trippster? Eating better I hope and putting on some pounds? Let me know the latest my friend.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 9:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Toastie, hmmm so 36" TPS? Isn't that bigger than your current pair?...I have heard that the newer Lousivilles don't have the same workmanship as the pads of a year or two back....but if they fit well and you can move, I say go for it. My TPS are 4 yrs old now and except for having the stripping on the toe replaced, they are fine.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 10:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP I have email finally and I will send you the details - I think I will give those Takla pants a try. My R5s are very trusty but just getting too damn thin. Another hip bruise last night, and I am getting out of bed like an old lady lately.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 10:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And a note on steroids guys - I can sure understand how pro athletes get tempted. I've been on prednisone for a week, (poison ivy) and I feel like I've been mainlining espresso! But the puck never looked larger, or slower. Really had an edge to my game last couple of nights. But alas, the last dose was today! And I suspect I'll turn back into a pumpkin at the stroke of midnight heh heh heh.....

Fourqts: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 11:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
LOL at Smott... Like you turn green and get huge or something when you pop those little pills. As for me, I'm looking at lots of sports this evening... First two Softball games in the wonderful 110 degree weather at 6 and 7 tonight then jump in the truck, cruise across town and be ready for a ice game at 10... Oh yeah I have to eat and shower some time in between as well as hydrate something viscious for the hockey game... Gonna be tired tomorrow

Toast: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 2:12PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah...thanks for the info...and a clarification, TPS are 34 inch, not 36 (my error), and they are were bought by the owner during the winter of 97/98, but he has only used them twice. So they are a couple years old...butterfly cut too. Same as my current pair, and I love those, but after five years, mine are dying from use...

fourqts': . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 2:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Question for you more experienced (in equipment shopping folks)... Has Eddy ever produced a mask that is made of polycarbonate rather than fiberglass??? I Saw a mask with an Eddy warning sticker inside but it did not feel like fiderglass to me.. Was used But looked worth the price they were asking, but felt flimsy... Like the Itech 951's which aren't made of fiberglass. Just wondering if i found a jewel or just junk..

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 7:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi 4q...hmmm I'm not sure but I think maybe it's junk. Never heard that Eddy made anything but the flimsy fibreglass...

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 7:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
BTW a busy night for you! Keep hydrated.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 7:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toastie was that the pair of nearly new TPS's your buddy was selling?

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 7:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I wonder if I'll ever buy new again....got my TPS from sportsexchange, and they were so nicely broken in. Felt like I'd been wearing them for years....

snowman: . . . . Tue, Aug 10, 8:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
nothin' like the way you can personally break in your own equipment, the way someone will look at you if they come over by surprise and catch you wearing your equipment while watching the game.....(boy is this guy nuts or what?)

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Aug 11, 6:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Here are some neat things for auction on Ebay currently. The first 2 items are Labatts items. button button button (Bud Light Fans) button (Brown Pro Excel C/A) button (Pittsburgh Penguin Goalie Action Figures - Barasso and Lalime) button (Bud Light Neon Goalie Mask) button (Vintage Goalie Mask) button (Replica of Ron Hextalls Quebec Mask. Game wearable) button (Martin Brodeur 98 Olympic mask Replica. Game Wearable) button (New Taz Mask) button (New Chrome Skull Mask)

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Aug 11, 11:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well what a wonderful night... Split softball then go play on the ice with 7 skaters... Played pretty good going down 3-4 had a couple of big golve robs, and 3 or 4 good breakaway saves... But to no avail... Tourney starts next friday... team ended 6 and 10... I played in 7 games and 5 were wins.. Bugging me about next season now, but due to the kids leagues they are putting off the mens league by an hour and a half.... Making early games 9 middle at 10 and late at 11.... add the 40 min of equipment care and the 25 min drive to the rink makes a 11 game end at around 1:30 or 2 for me.... With work no later than eight... I dunno yet.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Aug 11, 12:39AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And for those looking for a new catcher.... R-3 on ebay button

smott: . . . . Wed, Aug 11, 1:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ouch those are rough times....

C5: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 7:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Finally had an AWESOME night with my ice hockey team last night at Chelsea Piers! Stuffed a couple breakaways, made a few good kick/glove saves, and had a shutout going into the final 10 minute mark when they scored. Shot came in and I challenged the shooter, rebound right, made a total Eddy stick save to stop him from stuffing it in, he kept stuffing at it, no D around to plaster him, finally, he got it over my stick and popped it across the crease, where it was popped in my someone else camped out on my crease. Argh! The play took like hours to develop! Afterwards, guys were apologizing for not being there, saying things like, "But I couldn't believe you saved it! I felt like a TV camera." :D

C5: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 7:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Donuts are SO hard to get at the lower levels. It's not the quality of the shots. It's that the other teams often get one, two and three additional chances at any rebounds.

smott: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 8:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yup I agree. Too many really poor D errors from which you cannot recover. Also notice how the slower shots tend to leave those rebounds just outside the crease? When I play higher levels and there's a little bit of salsa on the shot, I can put those rebounds beyond the trailers or in the corners or over the glass. In C they just flop there like fish out of water!

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 8:22AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good Show c5... giving up one is generally a good thing... And I'm with smott on the lack of D deal in the lower levels... I think they all get antsy about scoring and we get hung out to dry as they do the smart thing and change while a 3 on one is coming at you.... Well we figured we might as well change as there was no way you'd stop the breakaway.... or that second shot.... and then the third was just impossible....

Chris: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 8:21PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, I think I have found a good replacement host for this site. While the cost is a bit more, I will be able to share the domain with other sites. So, stay close, and even after the move, this page will most likely remain up with the new url. So, we'll see how it goes. Questions, comments, email them! cjlambert@home.com

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 8:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all found a page with links to two shockwave games for goalies Check them out at button

Toast: . . . . Thu, Aug 12, 10:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes smottsie, same pads. Mine are at the end of their service, just too many little things going now. Tripp, gloves are working well! Thanks again. As for shutouts...hmmm...always seemed to get a lot more in C than A. However it is hard to play an A game followed by a C. But always found it easier to control rebounds in C, in A half the time I am just glad I got something in front of the original shot.

smott: . . . . Sat, Aug 14, 6:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah well Toastie you are at a higher level than most of us. C probably seems like slo-mo to you!....

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Aug 15, 9:12PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all finally got a line on the reactor 5000 sticks I've been looking for.... Met one of the trainers for the Yotes at the Cell one Ice den Today and bought a pair of Pro Nik Boolin Sticks (r-5000) for $50.... A steal I do believe.... And to make it even better he says come back whenever i need more for the same great price.... Yipppppeeeee!!!!!

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Aug 15, 9:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey vaughn fans.... I think this could be a good deal... button

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 1:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Had one of those weeks.... Got to play in my first all star game on Thursday... Implosion would only begin to explain the carnage.. The only good thing was we won 10-8... Gave up 6 goals in one period. Even found a way to score on myself. Actually wondered if the buzzer was going to sound before they were able to tie the game. On a positive note, finally met rocketgoalie.. Then got to see him again tonight when our two teams played in the playoffs. Lost 4-2, made some good saves, but 2 of the goals were really bad. Got beat on a real weak wrap-around because i half assed it. And played a move in front of the net like i had never played goal before. Rocketgoalie made some outstanding saves. Overall a week i would like to replay. But I did have fun and I guess that counts for something.

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 8:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey gb don't knock it my pal! An all-star game is great, win or lose. ANd at least you got a W out of the weekend!

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 8:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP where are ya??? Did you get my email? I want to try those Takla pants.....

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 8:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile in smottland, I go down 4-2 in C playoffs. A number of good saves but the other team was really stronger. We got new jerseys, my #29 was somehow omitted, and I wind up playing in nymber 20 a la Eddie the Eagle. But I'm afraid the resemblance ended at the jersey number! Oh well.

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 9:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
At the handshake after the game, their Cap tells me "I cracked the code on ya!" This guy scored 2 gimmes from about 3 feet out on loose pucks.

smott: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 9:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Now am I being catty or do you not getting bragging rights with 2-foot-putt goals? I told him he could talk to me when he could score from more than 15 feet. Meeooow!!!

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 1:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all, I'm back from my trip. Smott I got your mail and will be sending the details to you here shortly. Smott, that guy should be ashamed, not bragging about those goals.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Mon, Aug 16, 1:43PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for the compliments. The All-Star game was fun and don't forget that you played the 3rd period when everyone lets down. You didn't get the same level of play from our side as Jason and I did. The playoff game was a heck of a game too. I had alot more support than you did, though that makes it hard to stay limber and keep my head in the game. After that first goal (about 60 seconds into the game), I wasn't sure what was going to happen (an icing call was waived off - but with no washout signal - because the ref said one of our guys "didn't make an effort" to get to the puck 10-15 feet way and gb's team scored because my D half-assed it and I got myself out of position thinking they were going to make the icing call). That 2nd goal went in because I left the post and thought I had it covered when in reality, I left him amost a foot of net to shoot at. But we had one guy with speed and tenacity who kind of took over the last 2-3 minutes and kept your guys from getting too many serious scoring chances. GB, you had alot of shots and saves, though. I wouldn't call any of the goals "weak". Sure, you probably could have done things differently and they might not have scored, but I do that almost every game. That wrap around was a backhand and I thought it was a pretty good play by the center. I think most of us would have "half-assed" on that one because your D shouldn't have let him make that move. Not to blow my own horn too much, but a couple of those kick saves were pretty sweet and two of those breakaway saves were good too. Overall I was pretty pleased with my game. Next week is gonna be tough against the Rangers (runaway first place team)...our best forward (the guy with the healing broken leg who left the game injured) is still going to be hurting and our best Dman is out again (he didn't play against you guys) because he thinks his wedding and honeymoon are more important than hockey playoffs...

C5: . . . . Tue, Aug 17, 6:32AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cracked the code? Smott, he's not bragging, he's giving you a compliment. Most players have low regard for goalies.

C5: . . . . Tue, Aug 17, 6:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Had an excellent outing last night. FourQ, my game started like yours. Weak, weak wraparound in the first minute! Every guy on the ice came around to me and asked if I was OK. "Shake it off, I'm here 100%," I said. The game ended 4-1, in one of the closest matches I've ever played. I wish I hadn't let in that wraparound, as it would have been a donut. Hate to admit it, but losing the donut and getting a mistake out of the way is a good thing for me, psychologically, too. The save of the night came on a partial breakaway on a super-stealth pass from the corner to a guy breaking in front. He went short side, too, as that's where I wasn't... I somehow managed to get my blocker over-- he was roofing it-- and catch a piece off the tip and over the net. Sweet, I couldn't believe it.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 17, 8:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 niiiiice!

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 17, 8:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP will look for your mail....BTW I am off to the beach in a couple days, so I will not get the chance to try out those pants until probably the end of the month. Hope that's OK.

smott: . . . . Tue, Aug 17, 8:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
In fact I have a break from hockey now for nearly 2 weeks...and now started running again! It's so nice to get a bit of energy back. Now if only I had hair.....

C5: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 5:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Am I the only one who is sick and tired of the off-season contract/money wrangling going on in hockey right now? Pat Falloon is a case in point. "I still feel I'm underpaid," he said. If I were a coach, would I want a guy on my team who felt that 1.725 million is not enough?

smott: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 7:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Funny thing is, all of the NHL last year watched as my Pens writhed in financial death-throes. With the paltry TV bucks coming in, and multiple other teams in trouble, does anybody think the league can sustain these ridiculous salaries? Ridiculous.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 12:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
On the money front, Boston has walked away from Dmitri Krystich's contract and declared him a free agent. In the last collective bargaining agreement, there was an option for the team to sever ties with a player if they did not agree with the ruling in an arbitration case. So, maybe the owners have not totally lost their minds on the money issue. Boston tried to trade him after the ruling and no team would take him at that rate. Boston also retains matching rights to any offer made to him. Maybe Falloon needs to rething his whining just a little bit.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 12:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And thanks for the encouraging response to my earlier post about my week rocketgoalie, et al. It means a lot.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 2:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone heard anything on the new pad design Scott Battram was talking about awhile back?

: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 7:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP the check is in the mail!

smott: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 7:16PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Whoops c'est moi....

RocketGoalie: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 8:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
gb - it's a tough transition from roller to ice and the moves you have to react to are different (as well as the movements you make). I rely on my defensemen ALOT more in ice than in roller and I'm lucky that I've got 3 who are really good. If they suck I suck because in ice almost all skaters can make quicker moves. Not because they're better but because ice and ice skates allow it. Also, my lateral movement is much better in roller than ice because a push-off is so much easier. Wheels grip better than blades and they're more forgiving (for me at least).

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Aug 18, 10:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Found a pair of near new bauer 3000 Goal skates at play it again near me for $99.99... If anyone is interested let me know at (602) 942-3502 or fourqts @ primenet.com....

smott: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sorry, I am very happy with my 4000's.

Guardian: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 9:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Carpe...new Battram pad design is a poorly kept secret. Check out button and you'll see it. Somewhat similar to Heaton Gatekeeper graphics, but not too much.

C5: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 1:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB, wow, my helmet's off to Boston's lawyers. Expect lots of teams to take a page-- literally-- from Boson on that one. I'm thinking Annaheim, Vancouver, Toronto...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 2:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
So thats the new design eh? Not bad, not my style but I can see it offers a lot of room for interesting color combos. At least it is something different from what has pretty much become the norm as far as designs go.

Beatts: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 8:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Guardian your right...I've got a set of Heaton Gatekeepers and the new Battrams are very Similar...hmmmm makes you wonder..

Beatts: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 8:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Leafs sign Jimmy Waite....i like him...Looks like Healy is gone...I like him too... He costs alot though..always the consumate professional...

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 9:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Jimmy can be great at times but fell apart last year then refused to be sent down for work.... Pissed of yotes mgmt and basically signed his walking papers... A good pickup for the leafs i think... After healy retired..

Grass: . . . . Thu, Aug 19, 9:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Re: Scott's new designs... I've always been a fan of symetrical designs, but printing the name backwards (mirror image) on the left pad is a bit much for me. :-)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 7:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I thought that the mirror image thing was a scanning/printing mistake. If thats how it is then I agree with Grass

Bart-z: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 10:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone know where I can get the Koho Shark trapper in white/teal? Made a heck of a deal on the pads at Perani's($399) and the blocker at Sports Exchange($115 delivered) and now just need the trapper to make a complete set. It all looks quite nice with my Irbe "classic" jersey but clashes a bit with my Hurricanes #1 ;-)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 1:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I thought Sports exchange had the trapper too.

Bart-z: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 1:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I didn't see it there. I wonder if my eyes are going? If so then maybe I really don't need it...

C5: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 5:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Bart-z, welcome! Who are you? :-)

C5: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 5:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
{sigh} I've been looking for a job the last two weeks. Just got two offers today, though! Puts a damper on the hockey motivation.

smott: . . . . Fri, Aug 20, 6:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 what up my friend? You just got this job!

Tripp: . . . . Sat, Aug 21, 9:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all....some good news! My experimental chemo seems to be working, and the docs said that with some heavy-duty physical therapy, there's a chance that I could eventually return to my rightful place between the pipes. It may take a year or two..or three...and it may never happen...but at least there's hope.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Sat, Aug 21, 10:31AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Bart-Z...I happen to have a used one that I replaced with a Battram. It's worn but still looks pretty good and there isn't anything wrong with it at all. There's not much covering the white except some black puck marks. If you're interested at all I can email you a picture or two.

fourqts: . . . . Sat, Aug 21, 1:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all... Snowman Informed me That I left the size out on the R3000 Skates I saw at a play it again... They are size 8d and are priced at 99.99 and tax.... Again if interested post your email... I'd say they look as good as mine which are a season old.

deke: . . . . Sat, Aug 21, 10:05PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Tripp - that's great news. Wish you all the best, maybe you better hang on to that gear.

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 6:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Geod going, Tripp! Not thinking about the Tour de France, are you?

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 6:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, I hated that job! But they paid for everything, all my relocation, my apartment, hotel for a month, and then we part ways. Three weeks later, I have three offers, more money than I was making, and-- catch this-- I'm taking the lowest offer. It's at an interactive advertising agency. I'll be much happier.

: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5: thanks for the welcome. I'm an oldtimer(turn 43 in Oct) originally from Lima, OH now living in Columbus. Can't wait till the Blue Jackets start up next year. Never thought I'd be living in an NHL city! Should be fun. For a good laugh or two, check out the Lima hockey link on my web page - button One of these days I'll put some current stuff up there. Rocket: Very interested in your trapper. My email is: dbartz@columbus.rr.com

Bart-Z: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 8:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The previous message was from me by the way.

Beatts: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 4:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Bart-Z...Welcome from Ontario Canada !! Nice to have some new faces.

C5: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 8:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
BZ-- welcome, from NYC (né Calgary, Alberta, Canada)! Hope you drop in often. :-)

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Aug 22, 10:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
BZ welcome from the Desert of AZ... 106 outside.... Wet and slushy in..

z-man: . . . . Mon, Aug 23, 8:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I ordered a pair of Graf goal skates over a month ago, and they still haven't arrived. I think I now realize why EVERYBODY has Bauer 5000s now! The salesman tells me that Graf can't make the cowlings fast enough, but has plenty of boots... I told him to upgrade me to a Belfour cowling to make up for the wait, but he only laughed! I want to buy them from my regular spot, but if they don't come in soon I may search around.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Aug 23, 1:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man I know how you feel. I have been waiting and calling the folks at GRAF for a pair of the new 750's too. Latest I have is that they will be out mid Sept. time frame. They keep bumping it back. I think the reason may be the new modification they want to add to the cowling. Seems there is already a patent on the device and the guy who has the patent is trying to enforce it. I've talked to that guy and visited his web site and can't blame him for being pissed.You can check his site out at this button

C5: . . . . Mon, Aug 23, 3:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
That site is awesome! What a great idea. I think I'll create this myself.

snowman: . . . . Mon, Aug 23, 8:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Played the last game of the summer season, a consolation match. Finished 2nd in the league and lost out on the PO round. It is frustrating when half of the skaters on the team just dont make it on any given game.

deke: . . . . Tue, Aug 24, 7:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP - Thanks to a previous tip from you, I checked out the Overdrive site, (an extra "blade" that mounts flush on the bottom of the skate) and ordered the product. I've only used them a couple of times but so far am impressed. According to John McLeod, there is a learning curve where you have to teach yourself to use the area of the skate adjacent to the ball of the foot, and so far that has been the case. However, there have been a few times when the extra blade has really helped me to hold a 3/4 stance (i.e. most of the way down), where without the blade I would have been on the ice unnecessarily. It's also been helpful in recovering from being down in a full fly. Mounting the blade requires removing the top two rivets and drilling three holes through the skate bottom. The blade is held in place by three t-nuts. I'll report back as I learn to use the blades.

Guardian: . . . . Tue, Aug 24, 9:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all -- could people keep an eye out for a used Vaughn 1440 C/A, in XL? I'd really like to find one...condition doesn't have to be great as I can fix it up. I'd like to get that one to replace my Reactor 3, which is in near perfect condition but is just too damn protective for my liking. I'd rather feel the puck a bit and have a bit more mobility. Let me know if you hear of anything -- indexing@hotmail.com

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Aug 24, 10:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Guard... Check the Yahoo auctions.... there were 2 vaughn's in there but i did not look at size info.... Happy with my J Brown...

Guardian: . . . . Tue, Aug 24, 10:46AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks fourqts...checked out the Yahoo auctions, found a bunch of Mo Vaughn beanie babies, but no C/As. Funny what people are selling. Someone's trying to sell a Heaton Helite Brodeur stick for $75! Nope, not autographed, just the stick. Whatever...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Aug 25, 2:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Guardian, there are a couple of C/As for sale on Ebay. They wern't the exact model you mentioned but I thought I'd let you know.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Aug 25, 12:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Lost in Ice tournament last night 4-2 (one empty netter)... Killed penalties throughout the second and third periods (four from their team and three from our team were thrown out due to excessive penalties).. Played well and made 26 stops. Looking forward to next season... Roller team may disband so i'll go ice only. We'll see

Grass: . . . . Wed, Aug 25, 4:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
deke -- Let me know how you like those "overdrive" blades as you continue to work with them. I also liked what I saw on the website and have been toying with sending John some money...

C5: . . . . Wed, Aug 25, 8:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Lost my hockey game tonight, 3-1. Let in one wraparound after I lost my stick, one got stuffed between my legs, and another one a screen. My team has discombobulated since last time I played. We won 4 in a row and have now lost two. Yeek!

gbfreeman: . . . . Thu, Aug 26, 0:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, a win and a big loss. Played a consolation game Monday night, we go up 3-1 early. All-star defenseman goes to play the puck near the boards, catches an edge, goes into the boards wierd, and breaks his clavicle. Almost went through the skin. Took a lot out of us. Let the other team tie 3-3. Face about 3 point blank shots in the last 3 minutes, clear one to the winger and he goes in to score with 2 minutes left. Just went from a contender to pretender really quick. Best d out with the broken bone, 2nd best d drops out of school, and since he was here from Canada on a student visa, off he goes to the great white north. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH. And a quick note to Rocketgoalie, you got no support from your d. That first one was passed to the other team by your own teammate for petes sake.

C5: . . . . Thu, Aug 26, 9:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB, sheesh! Watch YOUR clavicle, man. Bad luck is going around on your team.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Aug 26, 2:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Glad to hear people are interested in the overdrive skate device. It's really an inovation in goal skates which are far behind player skates. The best part is this feature actually works and you can see/feel it working unlike other products where manufactures claim their product does this and that. John has designed a good product at a reasonable price to boot

C5: . . . . Thu, Aug 26, 3:02PM PST (-0700 GMT)
...to boot... heh heh, no pun intended, CdP? '-)

Goal35: . . . . Fri, Aug 27, 7:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all, long time no posts... season ended up obut 3 weeks ago, we took 3rd, fall starts up the 10th. Am going to play in a tourny this weekend.... got invited by 2 teams to play, and the 2nd one would have been fun to play with... some ex Admirals (IHL) and Badgers. but had already committed to another team... not looking forward to facing those guys.. is partially an outlaw team thats not even allowed to play in our league...lol hoping the old bones can take 2 games a day for 2 days after not playing for 3 weeks...

Vile: . . . . Fri, Aug 27, 7:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone hear about Yashin's holdout? If you've heard about that, have you heard about the Senator fan that has served notice he will file a class action breach of contract suit against Yashin by the season ticket holders. That would be so cool. I hate frivolous lawsuits as a rule, and this is a little silly, but I think holdouts are even worse, especially Yashin.

'tender: . . . . Fri, Aug 27, 7:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
What, if any thing, does anyone thing of Don Simmmons pads?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Aug 27, 8:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
If you go to his site you will notice that he doesn't sell from several manufactures and I doubt that it's by his choice but rather due to the fact that the products he sells are cheap rip offs from the designs of all those companies. He even went so far as to put the same graphic on the knee of a rip off of the Reactor 6 thats found on the original that he later had to change. I'm sure he was contacted by Bauer on that occassion. Some people like his gear and buying from him. I've met 1 such individual and it's more for a monetary reason than quality of the product. Call him and ask him why he doesn't carry certain brands, I'm sure he has a good excuse. It's fairly obvious that he has out right copied designs, then he even goes so far as to compare them to the copied items. Guess you can say the old adage "buyer beware" applies to dealing with his products. Of course this is IMHO.

RocketGoalie: . . . . Sat, Aug 28, 11:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB - thanks. We were absolutely pathetic in the first period. 6-1!!!!! We were fine after that (or maybe they just let down with such a gigantic lead). I could have played better but I sure couldn't have made a difference. I think we had 4 shots on goal the first period. But they were easily the better team (though if our league leading goal scorer from last season wasn't injured and our A-league Dman was playing we'd have done much better) and should have won (even though the refs let the game get too physical which allowed their bigger guys to interfere - I thought those were penalties - with our smaller guys IMO). That was the first time in 3 seasons with those guys I've been mad at them for their lack of effort. On the Don Simmons stuff, the last catalog I got (1997) he was selling Boddam (decent middle of the road stuff), Simmons (good knock off stuff, but there's better), Heaton, Kogo, Louisville, Ferland and Itech. Is he not selling that anymore?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Aug 28, 6:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
He still sells those names, they are the only ones he hasn't ripped off a design from

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 4:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Rocketgoalie, are you going to watch the championship game tonight? I am going to go and see how it shapes up. Also, are you playing in the Escondido tournament Labor day weekend? I got a call to play in it. Should be interesting. And for all chatsters, one of the more unusual items on Ebay button . Steve Yzerman playing goal.

smott: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 8:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
WAY TO GO TRIPPSTER MY FRIEND!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

smott: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 8:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys, la femme smottsie back from the beach and much too tan to be seen near a hockey rink! :-D

smott: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 8:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi B-Z welcome to the Chat, from Birdland...(Pgh...)

smott: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 8:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As usual my winter hockey is shaping up to be a scramble. 3 teams, 2 in the same league, the other in a different rink, same nights. Arrgggh. What to do?

RocketGoalie: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 11:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB - I'm doing wedding stuff today and have the 10:30 game so I don't think I can make it. On the other hand I have some shopping to do so I may swing by. Our team is having our "penalty party" that weekend (where everyone pays $1 for each penalty minute he had and that's the party money)...so no tourney. Any names going to be there? I heard Robitaille was up there this last week.

papillon: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 1:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi guys, long time no chat...having trouble getting access to the web at the momment. Just got back from a goalie school, learnt that I need to work on my conditioning and skating. Played two games the weekend after goalie school, won the first 2-1, then bombed out in the second big time.

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Aug 29, 9:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey all got to my friends to do a little scaning this weekend.. check out the engagment picture sequence at button

Grass: . . . . Mon, Aug 30, 6:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4Q -- Nice photos... You even had a secret photographer there to capture the moment! Very cool!!

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Aug 30, 7:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And the gods of summer submit to technology. Central air installed today... Oh my god, is it nice in the house right now. Whoever says money can't buy happiness is wrong. It can, and the cost is $4,583 installed. And in San Diego, the air conditioner is a year round appliance. Sort of like Phoenix :) I know, not a hockey related post, but real stoked. And the NHL starts in 32 days. WOOHOO

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Aug 30, 9:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes lucked out when i bought the tickets and ended up next to a co-worker and his girlfriend. There is also a picture i took at the 99 whiteout on the hockey pad and C5 I need your address to send out a copy of the invitation we made using the picture you doctored for me. Thanks again

Scotty: . . . . Tue, Aug 31, 7:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi ..... I am looking for a used Eddy Goalie mask... A size 7 - 7 1/2....If anyone knows where i might find one , I am at...vsf.animation@sympatico.ca My son has about one moree year left in the Eddie mask he is wearing. Thanks Scott

The Wall: . . . . Tue, Aug 31, 7:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey everyone, this is The Wall here.....just wanted to say hi to Smott......and let cha know I'm going to a different private high school now where I will play goalie under coach Laurie Belliveau....yes you heard right, she's my new coah at this school in massachusetts. I am going to be a junior. thought I'd update you all. have a nice night :-)

Toast: . . . . Tue, Aug 31, 9:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all...long time no post. Anyway, summer season continues...Tuesday "A" team swept it's quarter final 6-1, 4-3 (double OT), so off to the semis. Season will end just in time, our top two players return to their respective minor pro teams come mid-September. Thursday "A" is up 1-0 after an opening 3-1 win, game two Thursday. And in related hockey news, I got asked out to practice with a bunch of guys, they have rented the ice every afternoon for the next two weeks. I had to say sorry because of work, turns out they are all pros getting some skating in before camp, mostly A & I guys, with a couple NHLers...it would of been great to face shooters like that, even though they are way out of my league. Sai la vie...

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 7:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Chatsters! 4q - niiice photos! I know every girl dreams of a scoreboard like that... :-D

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 7:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Wall! Sounds like your jr year will be a very productive one! Youre coach's name sounds familiar...I guess I should know her?...

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 7:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toastie congrats on your qtr final results. Too bad you missed out on the chance to practice with those top flight guys - sounds like fun! Anyway bon chance next round, we all look forward to results.

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 7:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP - got the Tackla pants and they look great. Not too big as I had feared...(how tall are you?) Anyway, any suggestions for knee/thigh pads? My old R5s have these velcrod pads that come down lower to protect the top of the knee, but the Tacklas don't, and I have nothing inside my leg pads....I can make do with my ancient Coopers, but were you wearing any brand in particular that worked well with these pants?

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 7:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chatsters any advice on knee/thigh protectors? The Brain's Pro seems expensive but looked good in the pic as I recall....

Goal35: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 9:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
smott.. do your Lousivilles have the anchor for the lace in upper thigh guards? my R4's did and have been using a set of Brians since i got them.... maybe have the pro shop sew a set on for you.... and yes, the Brians come in BLACK.. :)

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 11:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hrey Toast...way to be. Must be the gloves, eh? As far as kneepads...I used to use the Brian's knee pads. They're definitely expensive, but they held up well and saved me from a few dead legs.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 2:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, I never wore knee pro with the tacklas. I wore those bad boys pretty low on the hips if you know what I mean. Never caught a knee shot with them but I have the Brian's knee pro on my Brian's pants and I'm not impressed with the materials. Mine are ripping apart right where the female portion of the velcro is sewn onto the knee pro, I've sewn it several times. I recommend you give the Vaughn stand alone knee pro a try, it cost about the same as the Brian's but looks better built. Glad you like the pants, they are pretty bomb proof in the vital areas.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 2:09PM PST (-0700 GMT)
For those of you who are interested in the OVERDRIVE blades for your skates but were scared away by the removing 2 rivits part, have no fear. I took the rivits out of my skates with a straight edge screw driver and a small pair of wire snips. A little bit of prying from the inside of the boot with the screw driver and around the rivit head until I could work the snips jaws underneath and the rest was cake. Took me about 10 mins to do total. If you haven't checked the site out already click on this button

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 5:54PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Every once in awhile I run into something that makes me shake my head and wonder what goes through some peoples heads. If you want to see something really ridiculous click this button

'tender: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 6:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thank you carpe de puck for the feedback on the Simmons pads. Right now I have Olie 7000's and would like to purchase a new pair and Simmons is on my list. Any suggesitons, price is of concern. How is Vic/MCM?

deke: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 9:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am writing to echo what CdP said about the overdrive blades. Rivet removal was no problem at all. I've got Bauer 5000's and didn't even have to mess with the inside of the skate to get the rivets out. I worked a thin bladed screwdriver under the lip of the rivets on the bottom of the skate and just levered them out. With the installation of the three t-nuts there is no loss in stability between cowling and boot. Based on my experience with Overdrive so far I would say go for it.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 10:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ordered the O/D kit myself ... just got the email that they are on the way here... As I'm new to ice and loved the feeling of gobs of shoe goo on the inside of my roller skates (for the same reason) I think I'm gonna like this deal... As for Smott's knee pad problem.. Call scott he sells them as well... I think you've heard plenty about the qual of his gear...

z-man: . . . . Wed, Sep 1, 11:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am finally on a winning team! My roller hockey team has won it's last three games in a row and my GAA is only 2.66, lower than I have ever has even three games into the season. My ice hockey and roller hockey teams in the past have been real duds, and it is good to finally feel some satisfaction in playing. All I can think about as I am losing 7-0 is "why am I here, this is no fun", but when you do well, the daydreams that follow make it worth it... I guess?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 3:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
'Tender check our Battram goal gear. I know Scott can make you a pair of custom pads for the same price your going to spend on off the shelf jobs from Simmons. There is a link on the bottom of this web page to his web site. Several of us on the chat use his gear and can vouch for it.

'tender: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 4:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe de Puck: Thank you for the info on Simmons. What designs has he copied/ripped off? What manufacturers? In the grand scheme of things is his stuff god enough to use at the senior league level? These pads fit right in my price range. Anyone else feel free to comment. Thank you.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 8:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
What is your price range? Look at Battram, he has a large price range himself, and his quality is generally agreed upon to be very high.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 8:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmm, CDP said the same thing, need to read more carefully :)

J.T.: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 11:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just wanted to drop a short note and say hi to everyone. I survived the Ironman again last weekend, and now 3 IVs later I'm back home. Looking forward to finally getting some ice time this winter if all goes well.

Grass: . . . . Thu, Sep 2, 6:39PM PST (-0700 GMT)
JT -- Better hurry, Fairfax & Reston are towards the end of their signups for the winter season...

fourqts: . . . . Fri, Sep 3, 1:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
tender Battram pads go from $400 US to $1000 US i think he can hit your budget... As for quality... Check the review page... our or five regs swear by them... I use Bold 3500's. As for copies.... Brians, Bauer, Brown, McM, Vaughn and those are just the ones that cut him off i hear.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 3, 7:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys thanks for the advice on knee/thigh pros...I am going shopping today.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 3, 7:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP I will try out the Tacklas in pickup tonight....however I think my vital areas aren't quite the same as yours! :-D

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Sep 3, 10:37AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, check out/dial 1-800-hockey1 or go to this button for the Vaughn knee pro for 49.99

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Sep 3, 11:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, I just found them cheaper at 1-800-hockey2. Vaughn 4000 knee pro $40.88

snowman: . . . . Sat, Sep 4, 6:45PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Big news in Pgh......JAGR GOT HIS HAIRCUT!!!!!!!!

RocketGoalie: . . . . Sat, Sep 4, 9:09PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And more news...Fuhr to the Flames for a 3rd round pick. Fuhr and Turek are both guaranteed starters...

smott: . . . . Sun, Sep 5, 8:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh you should see the pics guys, Jagr looks like a CPA now!

smott: . . . . Sun, Sep 5, 8:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I just hope there's nothing to that Samson/long hair rumor.... :-D

smott: . . . . Sun, Sep 5, 8:24AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP just sent you email....very sorry buit I cannot get my C/A to play nicely with those very excellent Tackla pants. However waiting to hear from a friend if he wants to give them a try, will let you know.....

smott: . . . . Sun, Sep 5, 8:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CATSFIVE!!! A Smith pads bulletin! There is a 34" pair of Smith Barrasso pads on sale here in Pgh. They are the TB replica in black & white. Would you like me to go check'em out for you??

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Sep 6, 0:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
WHOA c-5 will be aall over that i think.... News in Phx with the coyotes... They sign essensa to a 1 year deal... Looks like the negotiations with RFA nik boolin are worse that they are letting on... We hear they were not done but close and rumors put the deal at 2 to 2.5 mil a year... Maybe nik wants 3-4 mill.... This guy carried the team on his back most of the season... I hope the deal gets done soon.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Sep 6, 1:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And in other news, Ron Hextall announced his retirement today. No one knows if he will syat with the flyers front office or continue to appear with Berry Melrose.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Sep 6, 7:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Rocketgoalie, you missed a great tournament. We lost in the championship game 2-0. We were outshot 34-6. And then the shocker, in a Hextall moment, they announced the MVP of the tournament and to my shock, it was me. Sorry if that sounds like crowing, but, they never give it to a goalie, and never from the losing team. Took home best goalie honors also, a real big perpetual trophy that will have little old me's name engraved on it. The thing stands about 12" high and is a big gold cup. What a way to spend a weekend.

deke: . . . . Mon, Sep 6, 9:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Congrats gbfreeman! MVP to a goalie from the losing squad says a lot about the quality of your play. Way to go.

C5: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 6:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good work! I wish I could join a tourney or two... Way to go, GB, that's awesome.

C5: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 6:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottie, I just changed jobs and after five weeks of unemployment and just getting back from Europe my resources are generallt depleted. Damn! Check out those pads for me, though. How much? How new? Geez...!

C5: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 6:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Fuhr on the FLAMES?? As a native Calgarian I have to say, that's something I never thought of. Still, Steve Smith's playing on Calgary was ironic, too...

C5: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 6:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
'tender, I have to say this... I wouldn't judge a goalie by his equipment, but I generally don't approach anyone who wears the SIMMONS stuff with the same respect. Anyone who supports a rip-off artist like SIMMONS doesn't carry the same weight. Down in Atlanta where I used to play I was usually wary of guys with that gear on. "Those are a lot like the Brian's gear," I said to one goalie once, cautiously. The guy just shrugged and said, "Yeah, people say they are, but I don't give a damn, they were cheap, and that's all I care about."

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 7:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
lol smott, if you think Jagr's haircut is something, you should see the pic of him in drag in THN... apparantly he was back home at some fundraiser where he dressed up as a woman...lol

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 12:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
WAY TO GO gbf!!!!

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 12:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 my dear, these pads are listed at a mere 175 US....I can take a look and see how beat up they are if you'd like....

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 12:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh yes we heard about Jags' dress-up night....

C5: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 1:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, $175?? Yea, take a look. If they're light and still serviceable, it might be worth it. Why not buy them for yourself?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 2:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone know where I can get that picture of Jagr online? Or a picture of him with the new doo

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Sep 7, 2:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
cdp look at button

Goal35: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 7:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP let me know if you cant find it.. if you want I can bring it in and scan it for you.

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 8:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies, anyone got any ideas for beating a slump. Since my last post to the chat my goaltending has been brutal. Last night was the worst, went to a pick up game, and I only made about 10 saves from about 50-60 shots. I have thought of scratching myself from my league teams until things improve as I don't want to let the other guys down. Should I take a break, or work extra hard and just tough it out?

z-man: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 8:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I would say, stick it out. The same thing happens to me now and then (NOW). Just go in to the game with a positive, somewhat cocky attitude, like, how dare that puck go in the net!, and it will go away soon. Don't worry too much about it, it's just hard to get out of because it can snowball so fast downhill.

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 10:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ouch Papillon too bad about your slump....but take heart, we've all been there and they don't last forever.

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 10:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Definitely stick it out, I agree with z-man...when I'm in that "can't stop a beach ball" place, I usually try to make things simpler if I can. Concentrate on the basic fundamentals and just try to do those the best that you can, this will help you play within yourself, and not worry about trying to do too much. Remember your positioning, footwork, square to the puck, watch the puck, let it hit you, etc. When you start taking care of those basic things, you should find yourself making the saves you should make. And soon enough you'll start stealing a few you shouldn't!

C5: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 11:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon, not meaning to turn this chat into a shrink's couch, but is anything going on off-ice which might explain your slump? For me, that's how it goes. it's psychological. Right now I am decidedly NOT in a slump. I have never, ever been happier with my play than of late. It's a number of factors, but basically, being in NYC, a new city, and the guys on my team seem to take the game more seriously and be more supportive. Also, I am very motivated to move up in the league rankings and play at a higher level, so I want to stand out as a higher-level goalie every night.

C5: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 11:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So, I say, stick it out. Try and face more shots. And don't overload yourself. Try and get a long warmup. Take twenty shots or so during warmup, then sit for a minute or two. Then go back. Work your way into it again. Don't punish yourself.

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 12:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey C5....I will go take a look at the TB pads for you...and no, don't like that box-y stuff for myself...the older I get, the more flexible a pad I seem to need. can't getthem to lay flat as easily unless they are a little bit mushy, like my beat up Butterflys...anyway I'll let you know.

C5: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 12:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Goalies, this leads to a broader theory I have about goaltending in general. I've managed to successfully explain this over a beer one or two times, so I know it holds some water. My theory is that a normal person wants to duck like hell when anything comes their way. Flick your fingers in someone's face and they blink, right? A goalie is "in form" when that reaction is under control, somehow. For me, personally, I notice that when I haven't played in a long time (or are otherwise distracted) I actually "freeze" as the puck comes in. That "fight or flight" instinct takes over, and how long it takes you to react to the shot is the time it takes your brain to overcome this evolutionary reaction. When I'm in top form (and bear in mind I'm playing at a low level, here, not on CdP's level, for instance) I often find myself waiting for the puck to hit me, as in, I've already reacted. Other times, as I try, try, try to get my arms and legs to do what they're supposed to, I helplessly watch the puck go by me. So if you can address that fear, you'll be more successful.

C5: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 12:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi, Smott, on a rant, here. :-) Sometimes in warmup I get on my knees and take the shots that way. I watch the pucks all the way in and try to effortlessly let them hit me. I'm trying to tell my brain that if these things hit me they won't hurt me. I honestly believe that goaltending is 1/2 psychological.

: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 1:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Has anyone here ever heard of the armidillo? It protects yer ribs. Write me at HasekFan87@aol.com -Thanks, Andrew

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 1:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5, thanks for the prop. I take that as a compliment :-) I just hope I can walk out through the door now LOL. I agree, it's a learned response to actually let something hit you. No one wants to get hit by anything, let alone a vulcanized piece of frozen rubber traveling upwards of a hundred mph. Just watch people jump out of the way when someone lets one fly from the point and they are in the path of the shot. It's like a parting of the sea sometimes. Being able to see the shot as it leaves the stick and gets closer helps too, but we all know sometimes there aint no seeing it. It just disappears and you try and guess the trajectory and get something in the way.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 3:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
c5, i agree. My favorite place to watch a pro game is behind the net. During warmups, I get wierd looks because I am the only one not flinching when shots go wide and hit the glass. All the people around me are ducking and reacting. The wife asked me about it and the only response I can give her is that I won't be very effective in goal if i am ducking out of the way.

: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 3:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does anyone know how much the overdrive blades cost?

: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 3:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does anyone know how much the overdrive blades cost?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 5:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The overdrive blades are $30.00 US, S&H included in the $30.00

Grass: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 6:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP -- I just ordered the OverDrive blades...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 8:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cool Grass, I had a long talk with John a few days back. He has a lot of good ideas for improving goal equipment. I think if the overdrive blade catches on it will force progress to be made by the big names just to stay competitive. I always prefer seeing the average joe excel over the big names. If you have any questions about the blade call John and he will explain everything to you and talk goal too.

Beatts: . . . . Wed, Sep 8, 8:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey C5, i think you have hit the nail on the head....I know personally when I warm up, I don't even flinch for the first 15-20 shots in warm-up. I tell my team-mates to try to hit me from the chest down. By just letting the pucks fly past me or hit me if gives me an excellent feel, and mentally prepares me for the upcoming barrage...I can just imagine what people in the stands are thinking "Geez, this goalies' reaction time sucks!""He barely stopped a thing"

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh, cool, guys, thanks for the comments on my theory. Our theory. You can't flinch. GB, yeah, I love watching the fans behind the net flinch as a shot hits the glass, and I've done the exact same thing at the rinks, standing there and just watching as the pucks slap into the glass inches from my nose. Beatts, that technigue works, too. When I'm warming up I'm not trying to stop shots. I'm trying to get into the game. This technique of yours never freaks out my D, but my wingers sometimes skate by and say, "You going to be OK?" Heh heh...

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I think this is the reason Ken Dryden began his book the way he did. Something like, "You can always spot the goalie, and I don't mean just on the ice. Take them out of their uniforms, sit them all down to dinner. The goalie is different." At the risk of sounding a bit too obsessed, I find that being a goalie even affects my outlook off the ice. You're permanently a goalie!

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
heh heh all this sends me back to college days at Cornell...used to get to peactice early while the guys were still on, and watch Brian Hayward, who was technically very sound. The men's coach hated it, and used to try to surprise me by slinging pucks off the glass by my face. This is where I learned not to flinch. I used to smile and wave back.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...as I understand it, Dryden was fairly solid too, heh heh, but that was before my time at the Big Red.....

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for warmups, I rarely get any, all of my teams seem to think that warmup is for flying down the slot, throwing some dekes and trying to score. Only the D have a decent idea of it, which is to take a few long slappers and let me get some timing. First game in C last night, I had just finished stretching and hadn't even scraped up the crease when the refs blew the whistle. Gee, thanks. The HS kids run late, and there goes my warmup.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Managed a 6-3 win over a team we should have reallypounded. One ringer scored their 3, we outshot them hugely but couldn't make a dent in their guy until the last 10 minutes. But I'll take it.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 5:46AM PST (-0700 GMT)
and CdP I'm afraid I have to give up on your lovely Tacklas. Tried again with no suspenders, etc, they just don't fit well with the R5 C/A. ALso my pal doesn't need them either so....very sorry to say I'll be boxing them up and sending'em back to you.....

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 7:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
When I'd get in a real funk, I'd start off my warmups on one knee, and have our best shooter flick pucks right at my glove from about 15 feet out. Then switch knees and take a few to the low stick side. Then blue-liners. Usually by that time, I had a good feel and lock on the puck.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 8:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Trippster you break 140 yet my man?

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 9:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
-=PUCK STATUS: LOCK =- heh, I like that.

Goal35: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 2:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
lol... and that "puck status:lock" should be achived while you have the Darth Vader theme song running thru your head...

Goal35: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 2:02PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I brought the Jagr pic in the office today, man he makes for one ugly blonde... hehe

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 9, 3:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Darth Vader? Don't you guys mean Xena Warrior Princess? :-D

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 8:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Darth Vader? So thats what my captain means when he says I need to get in touch with my dark side before a game.

C5: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 9:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, any news on those pads?

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 10:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
called and he is waiting for new ones, another week or so. I will try to at least take a look at them this week. heh heh gettin' antsy huh?....

Goal35: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 10:06AM PST (-0700 GMT)
lol smottsie... I didnt even notice Zena had a theme song....

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 12:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey guys I read an article whereby the baseball powers-that-be are considering eliminating a few franchises. Talent too thin, too many clubs in the red etc. Much as it will hurt fans in the cities involved, I think it's the right direction. In the NHL too. I wonder who's going to be teetering on hte brink of bankrupcy this year? Buffalo? Montreal maybe? Hmmm. Just think of 16 teams again. Goodness that would raise the skill level.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 12:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile the courts have given full control of the Pens to Mario. He's been out and about, at training camp (more than he EVER was before heh heh heh) signing autos for fans etc etc. Needs to sell a bundle of season tickets, and I bet he will. If Pens don;t get off to fast start however, watch out.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 12:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
There's a funny ad with Mario now too, "600+ goals...800+ assists...2 Stanley Cups...and ONE save." Catchy.

Goalie Stuff Online: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 8:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
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Tripp: . . . . Fri, Sep 10, 8:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
whoaaa...my name made the PRO goalie list. It's a proud day indeed

z-man: . . . . Sat, Sep 11, 0:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey guys, just curious... what style do you guys use? I am a stand-up goalie primarily, but since all I ever learn in goalie camps is butterfly stuff, I also use some of those moves. I guess that makes me more of a hybrid. I play out pretty aggressive, and I am prone to stickhandle like Roy or Hextall. Sometimes I try to play butterfly just when shooters think they have me figured out, so I use it like a change up pitch. And I am small, only 5-8 150lbs. I also lose my stick like Hasek when the puck is in close which I decided to try one day and found that it works better for me. I am interested in how you would describe your style.

smott: . . . . Sat, Sep 11, 5:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
COngrats Trippster!!! Hope you're keeping well and gaining weight....

smott: . . . . Sat, Sep 11, 6:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm as for style I guess I would call myself somewhat of a hybred too....I do not have the flexibility in my knees to be a full fly goalie, but I try to play the percentages and take away the lower half of the net whenever possible, which allows for a lot of fly or half-fly maneuvers. ALso I try to stay at the top of the crease to maximize the size of my bruising 5'8" 135lb frame! :-D

Tripp: . . . . Sat, Sep 11, 7:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hiya smottsie...still hovering around the 137 mark. Milkshakes and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches will tack on the pounds in a hurry. As for goaltending, I've gotta say I was more butterfly than standup, but in my opinion you've got to combine the two styles to be successful. Still, I agree with smott...taking away the lower 2/3rds of the goal should be the priority.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Sep 11, 3:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey gang, just finished installing my OVERDRIVE blades on my skates. I must say I was a little hesitant at first but the instructions provided are excellent and it is really very simple to do. The whole process took me about 20 minutes to do. I'd almost say it's impossible to screw up, it's that simple an operation, but I know it probablly can be done wrong. There is always that 1% in everything. Overall though it's very straight forward. Not having tools or friends to borrow them from could be the only draw back. As soon as I get to put the blades to use I'll let you all know how they perform.

deke: . . . . Mon, Sep 13, 7:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone know much about Nxi masks? In particular the Stealth model. The design is pretty unusual looking (read "weird"), but the sales pitch is that it better fits the shape of the head. Any feedback is appreciated.

deke: . . . . Mon, Sep 13, 8:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Went to a Canucks/Sharks exhibition last night. I know, pre-season hockey, but it's the closest we get to the real thing in Spokane without getting on a plane. Ended in a 1-1 tie. Got to see the 4 on 4 overtime, seemed to work pretty well. Goalies had the edge, though the pace was definitely pre-season. Garth Snow was a no-show (as was Messier), but got to see some good goalies, Kevin Weeks and Christian Bronsard for Van. and Mikka Kiprusoff (from Finland) and Johan Hedberg for the Sharks. Kiprusoff had the save of the night by far on a rebound from the slot, he's falling on his face, reaches back with the glove and snags it just before it goes top corner. Regular season can't be far away.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Sep 13, 12:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Pre season games are a good chance to see up and comers. I've got tickets for the wife and I to see the 'Canes and Caps on the 22nd. It should be a pretty good game. On the NxI masks, I agree they look weird. As far as fitting better goes I would think that differs from person to person since all of our melons are shaped differently. Anyone interested in a pair of 32" white/black Brian's pads with puck foils for around $300? If you are let me know, I know a guy selling a pair. I also have a front/back photo of them too.

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 6:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ahyes pre-season...my Pens are 0-2. Kaspar still holding out. Will they keep Skudra or JS AUbin to back up TB, who I suppose will get traded at the deadline....

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 6:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Speaking of TB, I played against a guy who was a TB replica last night, in fct C5 he might be the fellow who is selling those pads (haven't had a chance to go see'em yet) but...if he was wearing the ones he was about to sell, they don't look too bad, just lived in. Much too big and boxy for moi, but for you they could be perfecto.

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 6:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Incidentally, I spanked Barrasos, 6-1. :-D

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 7:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
deke... the Nxi masks are the new version of the Badger.. they are very lightweight, was looking at one myself but didn't have the time to wait when I replaced my Badger, have seen 3-4 in our league, everybody that has one likes it

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 9:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
AHH back to the wonderful roller team.... First game... Four skaters (vs their 9)... Solid through the first with 15 saves and 1 goal.... Then come the flood gates. 17 save second but 6 goals. Go on to lose 9-0 and I quit counting saves in the third. Best guess would be a 9 goal 50ish save night.... After the game I'm yelling at the team to get some damn players out... It is just no fun when the skaters all run out of gas and we get shelled for a big number. GRRRR... and they complain that that they wouldn't get to skate as much....

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 12:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Heh heh yup we know where that's at 4q! Last Saturday my C team got "tested" against a new team they thought should be in B but weren't sure. We had 7 skaters, they had 12. 1-1 after 1, um 10-2 after 3. I stopped counting too. The good news is that team's getting moved up!

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 1:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
sounds like that was the theme for last weekend... our 1st game in B1, we get 6 skaters, they have 14... Kept them in it til the 3rd... shellfest, never saw more 3 on 1 in a game... seemed every rush...lol we lose 8-4. I kinda blew up in the locker room, too many games we're playing short.. told them they better get it together, i've got plenty of other offers to play elsewhere..

charge: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 3:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
what length leg pads should i get i'm 5'9" and i think the ones i have now are 34s but i'm not sure

charge: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 3:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
help me please thanks

deke: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 7:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey charge: are you saying that the current pads are too long? There's no absolute rule, I'm 6'0" and have Brown 34" pads, I know goalies who are shorter that use the same size pads, and goalies that are my height that wear 32's and 33's, so it's all personal preference. Best bet on finding your size is to try on different pads. It's also true that a Vaughn 34 may fit differently than a Bauer 34 which is different from a Brians 34, etc. Hope this helps

deke: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 7:25PM PST (-0700 GMT)
G35- Thanks for the info on the Nxi. I thought I remembered something about a Badger connection. I am still using my Badger Elite, but it's about reaching the end of its useful life I'm afraid.

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 9:26PM PST (-0700 GMT)
charge, you just have to try'em out. Brands vary widely. I'm 5'9" but I have long legs, I have happily worn 34" in Cooper and Vic. Then got 34" Koho and they were up to my chin. My current 32" Lousivilles are way too short and I get hit on the top of the knees frequently, not much fun. You need to get the knee rolls to match your knee height and go from there. From brand to brand, that could be 32, 33, 34, you can't tell until you try'em.

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 9:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
ANother slugfest for la femme smottsie tonight. Filled in in A level, of course we are playing last sessions champs. They get 5 in the first, of which I had a prayer on maybe one. We only have 3 on the bench unfortunately or we might have at least kept it close. One goal highly disputed, and I need Grass our Chat Rulemeister to help out on this one.....

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 9:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
They had the puck in our zone, we got it and fired it out, it hits our winger in the shin pad (outside the blueline) and ricochets back in. I and everybody else on the ice save the ref, thought this was offsides, ie the rule is the puck has to be brought back in under control by the defensive team for offsides to be waved off. Everybody more or less stops playing, finally their guy picks it up and blasts it, tipped in, goal. Ref says no offsides because it hit our guy, says intention or control of the puck had nothing to do with it. DOn't have my rule book memorized but that is not the way I believe that rule goes. Where o where is Grass??

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 9:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
But a few nice saves, only allowed 2 in the last 2 periods. Flailed wildly on a wide open rebound and grabbed it somehow. My D starts singing "She works haaard for the money..." So a few light moments in my shellack of the week!

Grass: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 10:20PM PST (-0700 GMT)
From the Rulemeister: [Rule 626 "Off-Sides" Section 5.] If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own Defending Zone while a player of the opposing team is in such Defending Zone, the "off-side" shall be waived and play permitted to continue.

Grass: . . . . Tue, Sep 14, 10:21PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sounds like the ref was correct on this one... (Sorry!)

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 7:19AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm, but he didn't carry or pass it...? It was a clearing pass that hit him and ricocheted back in....

wolfman: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 9:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi everyone. I started my winter league on sat. We won 8-2.It was close until the third 4-2 then they quit skating. Summer league closed with us taking D champ.

Grass: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 12:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
ms. smott -- I think it is not the guy who was hit, but rather the passer who 'passed' the puck back into his defending zone... He was the last to have 'control' of the puck.

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 1:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ice League started last night... And the captain went shopping in the off season... Brought in a great d-man and a good winger. Played well with 32 saves 3 goals... Win 8-3 with two short handed goals. Their three were two back door passes (nice and no shot by me...) the third a two on 1 on which i flinched thinking pass and barely missed with the glove... Staved off 2 minors and a major in the third... Was a fun game. I think my team now has the rep for the dirtiest in the league by far... What a coincidence the roller team has the same rep...

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 1:52PM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for pad sizing... I'm 5'9" and use Battram 32's... They are the exact same size as my older DR 33's so it is a brand and feel thing. Also a broken in pad plays a few sizes smaller (meaning that they feel smaller). The Batts felt huge for the first season, because it took alot of energy to get them to bend or move... As for size they run about 4-5 inches above my knee and with my r-5 pants and thigh guards on the Batt pads I rarely get stung..

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 1:56PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Grass even though the passer was inside the zone?

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 1:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good going 4q sounds liek an improvement over the roller.....

Toast: . . . . Wed, Sep 15, 9:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sorry smottsie...that isn't offside. The guy who made the pass from inside the zone is deemed to have control, since the pass bounced off a teammate and came back in, it is still deemed to be under control. I know, sounds strange, but the fact of the matter is you can't put another team offside, they have to do that to themselves. Make sense?

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 5:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yup makes sense I guess.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 11:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Now correct me if I'm wrong here Toast. Had the puck bounced off of your man(Smott) and gone to a player on the other team and there was a man from the other team in your zone still, then that man(other team) would have to come back onsides before the puck carrier entered the zone.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 11:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Survived the Hurricane here, nothing more than a few hours without power. A lot better than expected. Lets hope the rink still opens this sunday for stick time.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 11:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Nobody cleared the zone. Puck came off my man back to their guy who shot it. Save, rebound, shot, tip, goal.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 11:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Glad you survived the hurricane CdP! WHen can you send those pads my way?.....

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 9:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottie, your offsides situation is one of those plays which, even though it was called correctly, looks foul to everyone there physically watching it... like the goal on Hasek to win the Cup for Dallas...

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 16, 9:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4Q, good point about the pads. My 34" pads are broken in but they play like 33"'s... the knee bend is about two inches below my knee, and I often get knocked top of the knee. I have good pads there, now. I'd like something light and small, nimble, but big enough to let me close the five hole when I want to... That's why when I buy my next set-- if I ever do-- I'll go with Battrams or something out of a store which lets me try them on or get measured for them...

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 5:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
goalies, I think I have snapped my slump. I got my skates sharpened and I got some new laces for my skates, and all of a sudden I was skating better which gave me confidence and I started playing like the old Papillon.

Papillon: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 6:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
For the first time in ages I really want to get to practice tonight, I am going to kick some butt. Theres no way they are going to get any past me tonight, heck I might even score a goal or two myself ;).

C5: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 7:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Look out, Hex! Trivia question: Who was the first goalie to score a goal? Answer? I don't know. You tell me. It's a good question.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 7:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I remember Billy Smith gettign credit for one way back when....

fourqts: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 8:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I agree with smott.... but it was a errant pass by a winger to the center point (with no d man there) after smith made a save... the puck goes in the passers own goal.... smith was the last on the other team to touch it... and he gets credit.

Bonn: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 9:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Re: First goalie to score. Billy Smith was the first in the NHL to get credit for a goal, and Hextall was the first to score by shooting the puck. Michel Plasse scored a goal in the AHL before either of these two managed it in the NHL.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 9:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Goodness but aren't we the trivia hounds?

Fourqts: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 2:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ok, Ok here is the dirt in phoenix in dealing with RFA Tender Nik 'Boolin... Nik is seeking a contract averaging $5mm a year... Supposedly the team had an offer of between 3.5 and 4.0 mm per year through the summer... Both sides say they are willing to negotiate and that they all want 'Boolin in coyote's gear this season... So by my count they are about 1.75mm per year... As training camp came and went, the stories change a little... The team says now that they will not pay 'Boolin UFA money (I.E. the $5.0mm / season)... The Agent Says nik is top five in the league and wants to be paid like it... So the team blows $800k on signing essensa on a 1 year deal. In camp they have Stlenkohv (sp), Essensa, and Esch (from springfeild AHL) last season... Nik is working out at a local gym for about 3 hours a day...

Fourqts: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 2:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
So the question is, what is 'Boolin worth... You have some high priced busts in the league and some high priced Stars... I think the same situation exists in Boston.. I think both these UFA's deserve a healthy salary, as they carried their teams last season. The knock from the coyotes is Boolin has yet to take his team out of the first round... As I recall, they lost the final three games of the series giving up a total of five or six goals, game seven was decided late in O/T on the only goal of the game. I think his only shakey game in the series was game one... He pretty much stood on his head the other six. If the Yotes are willing to pay Tk-choke an average of 5.95MM over the next two years, I Don't see why they balk at paying nik in the range of 4.3MM. In my opinion, Nik's performance over the last two has been more important to the team than Tk Choke's?

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 17, 5:02PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well I'm not exactlyup on the Yotes but I never thought that goaltending was their problem last season, though Khabi did have a little shakypatchthere near the end ofthe season. Though as I recall the whole team was in a slump.

Grass: . . . . Sat, Sep 18, 3:46PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP -- Just got my OverDrive Blades in the mail...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sat, Sep 18, 5:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Grass, take your time installing them, the hard part is getting the nerve up to drill your skates. Afterwards you'll see it's pretty simple to do. Some of the most notable improvements I've seen is the push off movement. Wheather from side to side along the goal line or from one side of the crease to the other. It also allows you to over exagerate your stance since you still get traction with your legs wider apart than normal. Getting up is easier but you have to actually "try" using the blade the first couple of times to get the feel for it. After that it's no big deal, it's real easy. My blades scraped a little when ever I did a half fly to either side but this was fixed by moving the lower portion of the blade in a little. All I can say is the blades are great. It improves your mobility so much it almost seems unfair if not devious>:-) You find using your normal push off that you are now propelled way out on top of your crease. The blades are like little fast forward buttons for your skates. If you buy one new piece of equipment this season it should be the OVERDRIVE goal blades.

Grass: . . . . Sat, Sep 18, 7:24PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP -- Being the brave soul that I am, I am going to let my favorite rink rat perform the operation. (He has the 'honor' of being the only person with whom I entrust my stinky skates!)

C5: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 9:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
NEWS FLASH! Speaking of equipment, Hasek's now using brand, spanking new Louisvilles! The design looks EXACTLY like the Bauers he had before, including the slanted tips. Check it out at this button ...

C5: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 9:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Note that there is something strange in the second picture: There are pucks in the net! How did they get there? Must have been shot there by some other players...

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 12:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
You are correct, those are the new EXHALE series pads and they don't normally come with the tops angled like that. A Dom custom order for sure. Did he also change stick brands? I don't remember him using Heaton sticks, Bauer comes to mind. Hasek has used louisville before though, I have an old card of him with a Louie catcher. I guess they offered him more money than Bauer. You know thats going to help launch the new line right into the main stream. Now all the people are going to want new pads like the Dom is wearing. i read an interesting article in the current Hockey News on goal equipment. I never realized THAT MUCH money was spent on sponsorship of equipment, it's almost unreal.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 12:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good pics C5(as usual)

C5: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 2:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes, those pads are real beauts. They'll look like the ol' Reactor 5's, though. A .928 save percentage sure collects a lot of rubber! I wonder how much they weigh...

Aaron: . . . . Sun, Sep 19, 7:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hello?

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 0:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
speaking of the X-hale's .... local shop had a set (pads, catch, and block) and I was not impressed at all with them... Not to heavy, but akward feeling for some reason... not totally sure what it was but felt funny... And you'd think that if Louisville was paying him a ton (which they must be to overbid BAUER and the Nike buck) you'd think that a stick would be part of the whole deal... HMMMMM?

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 4:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The reason you might be seeing Dom with the Heaton stick is that all of the new Louiville EXHALE line is being designed by Brian Heaton, who sold his named line off to another company.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And from the playing dept... yes another game where we have 6 skaters against 13.. keep them in it til the 3rd, when nobody decides to backcheck or play any D or is just too tired.... we lose 4-2. guys tell me it's not my fault... if this keeps up, tell it to the new goalie next season...

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 7:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Grass.. just wondering how you like the Battram glove, and how does it compare sizewise/break in to the Cobra.. mines getting close to needing replacement... thinking on getting the glove to match my blocker.

snowman: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 7:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
G35- Is that all the skaters you have or are they just not showing up for games? I hate it when guys just dont show up. You know they are going to be more tired than the other team , at least in most cases. You probably saw a lot more odd man rushes coming at you as well. Most of the time I hear the attitude, oh well the goalie is good enough to stop that guy. I have seen too many 3 on 1 rushes, that it makes me sick.

smott: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 8:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Guys I can relate to short benches! We had a lovely Sat night game at 10:20. (Do I have NO life or what?) We show up with 5 skaters to their 15. They are the worst team in the league and we lost 2-1, winner with 3 mins left. Scary thing is, they were so bad we actually outshot them. But then midway through a college pup shows up for them, skates rings around everybody, sets up the tying and winning goals. I stopped him 3 times on breakaways, but I'd rather have had the W. Yuck.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 10:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
snowman.. from what i saw on the roster, we have 12 guys listed, apparantly some are sub only, I talked to the league director and he's gonna try and get us some bodies, but is ridiculous.. they move us into upper B and we get 6 skaters one week, 7 the week before... how'd they like it if us goalies had the same attitude?

Grass: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 5:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
G35 -- About the Battram glove. I am not a fan of equipment, meaning that I do not spend a lot of time in the pro shop looking at the latest & greatest fashions from the big names in hockey. Which is a long way to say that I don't know how the Battram glove compares to the Cobra. I did have a lower level Vic and there is no comparison between the two. I have had the Battrams for about 18 months (playing 3 times a week).

Grass: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 5:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The only issue that I have with the catch is that I have managed to split the leather on the catching surface twice now. (Most recently two nights ago and I haven't made the time to sew it yet!) I don't know if it is because of the strength of the protection or the type of material used, but it has been cut twice. My old glove never split, but it often felt like my palm did! Very few stingers with the new glove, but I guess that energy has to go somewhere...

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Sep 20, 10:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hello all little update on the home front in AZ. 4 days 18 hrs and 51 minutes untile I tie the Knot... Put a bid in for a house today and it was accepted... 2 bedroom with a pool that i will attempt to freeze over for practice time (LOL).... And my OD blades came in the mail today... Will be putting them on in the morning and playing tomorrow night. As for the comparison from the cobra (I use a phantom) to the battram glove (which Ive tried out once)... No comparison... Batt was much more solid in the padding department... but the phantom is lighter and does well for me..

Goal35: . . . . Tue, Sep 21, 7:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Grass.. thx, I thought it had come up that you had replaced a Vic/McMartin glove with the Battram... and yes, that is a concern I have as well.. i had alot of splitting prob with my Battram blocker, but since Scott put a new face on it, I only see one cut in it... so trying to decide on the Battram, or going with SFS and their 20% off sale and getting another Cobra.

smott: . . . . Tue, Sep 21, 8:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Let me put in a cheer for my Koho Roy Rev catcher. Going on 2 years now, 3-4 times/wk, it is still great. Minimal stingers and great webbing, it inhales pucks and they don't excape.

smott: . . . . Wed, Sep 22, 5:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey guys, has anybody heard anything about Thompson custom pads? Friend had a pair and said they were terrific, light and no break-in....

C5: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 9:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
With the new season starting comes a whole new season of cool, 1024 x 768 goalie pix on my site. Any interest here among you goalies for this? It takes a bit of time and I don't want to do it unless it'd get some hits from y'all.

smott: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 11:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
yah, I liked 'em!

wolfman: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 1:59PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 go for it. Their good:>)

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 3:02PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Went to the exhibition game last night, Canes and Caps. Canes won 4-1 but the Caps had much better play than the Canes. Ollie gave up 3 in the first but I can say they wern't all his fault. One of the biggest fights i've ever seen in pre season or regular season for that matter happened too. I took the digital camera and got some real good shots of warm ups and the game to include the fight. Fichaud was looking real strong, no bad rebounds at all. The 1 came late inthe 3rd with seconds left and was a break down in D.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 3:04PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott I have a Thompson catalog and his stuff is High priced. You can check out his web site too. i don't have the addy with me but you can do a search for it no prob.

Scott Battram: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 6:00PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Goal 35, we will beat the price from SFSL!! Our new glove for 2000, features a new material called JENPRO, this is the same material that Vaughn is using, and will eliminate the spliting problem, we have also widened the T-TRAP, and this allows the glove to open even more, the new material also makes the glove broken in after a few uses, previously, with the JENRINO we were using a foam underlay this would keep the glove fairly solid. By eliminating the foam underlay and switching to JENPRO, the glove has awesome flex. I went to practice the other night with the Senior AAA team here in town, and the goalie uses last years BOLD models, and he was in awe of our new BOLD line for 2000, especially the new catch glove and pads.. he was amazed how easy the glove closed and how much more open the glove now is. Basically CarpeDePuck sent me a list of recommendations for the glove, and all of his recommendations have allready been addressed... but thanks again for the nice ideas! This is a great tool for learning customers feedback.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Sep 23, 8:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Check this out gang.....and you thought your pads were bad button

C5: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 5:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey, CdP, those pads are cool, whaddya talkin' about??? When I was a kid I was tying couch cusions on my legs! And using dozen-count egg carton lids as a waffle!

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 5:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeeek! Reminds me of the old couch-cushion on leg days....

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 5:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes CdP checked out the Thompsom page and not overly impressed. Actually I saw a Boddam butterfly pad that looked interesting, but I have no idea the quality. BAsically the thing that made my Lousivilles so nice for me is the tapered toe, which some pads have, and the single-panel on the inner shin, which almost no pads have anymore. That made it much easier for me to get the pad flat to the ice. Hard to find nowadays.

smott: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 5:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
CatsFive, I am going to check out the TB pads this weekend if the kid has got his new ones yet. Still interested?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 7:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I remember the foam rubber pads baseball glove and a piece of cardbord strapped on for a blocker days all too well. Oh the joys of being young LOL. Smott on the Boddam pads. I have seen a pair of those pads and I will say they are very flexible right off of the shelf. It felt to me like they were actually a little TOO soft and flexible to stand up to serious play for a long haul. The material used on the pads seemed kind of low end synthetic leather type stuff. Reminded me of the material you find on the booth seats at old dinners. I wasn't impressed with them to say the least, especialy for the amount of money they want for them.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Sep 24, 8:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
smottsie, I know Scott Battram will chew me out for recommending them, but the Bauer reactor 3000's I used to wear for roller hockey had zero break-in. I used em right out of the box. Not sure if they're as tapered as you like, but you may wanna check into them. My only complaint was that the stuffing really kicked out rebounds, even though it was soft and really flexible. Of course, the lighter roller hockey pucks may have had a lot to do with that