deke: . . . . Sat, Mar 20, 6:53PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Chris: Thanks for clearing the log. I haven't been able to get in for nearly a week. Nice to be back.

Chris: . . . . Sat, Mar 20, 6:56PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sorry about that. I'll try not to let it happen again...

C5: . . . . Sat, Mar 20, 7:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
If I were to more to Manhattan, theoretically, could I still play hockey? How far from Manhattan would I have to go? I'd have to sell my car since I couldn't afford to keep it. Does anyone know?

Tripp: . . . . Sat, Mar 20, 7:20PM PST (-0700 GMT)
There's a lot of good hockey in Noo Joisey and Westchester county. There is a league at Chelsea Piers in Manhattan. And there's always the "hockey in Harlem" program if you're feeling adventurous. Not having a car will make it much harder for them to carjack you :-)

deke: . . . . Sat, Mar 20, 10:31PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5- Tripp's right about hockey in NYC. Being a transplanted New Yorker, I can tell you that there is plenty of ice, but hard to come by right in Manhattan. White Plains has a rink, about 25 miles outside the City. There's a rink in Elmsford (about the same distance)with a very active rec league program. Rangers practice at Rye Playland (also in Westchester) and I understand that they are building a state of the art practice facility with two sheets in Purchase, NY on the campus of my alma mater Manhattanville College. I haven't heard when it will be done. In all, I'm sure you'd find ample opportunities.

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 21, 9:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cool. Thanks, guys! I wouldn't have a car, though, so you never know. At least no one would mug a hockey player on the subway! :D

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 21, 9:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone seen Tabby's new mask? Bizarre. It has an eagle on it. Very cool color coding on it, though. I'm posting pix of Tabby right now on the picture page.

: . . . . Sun, Mar 21, 3:29PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5, I can't find the Tabby pic anywhere. You sure it's up?

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 21, 9:02PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Sorry... My computer crashed right when I was uploading... and it's too late now to fix it. I'll do it Monday night. Sorry, kids... :(

Toast: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 6:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Deke, I have had the same problem, I could not download the log for several days. News from the Toast front, one league is entering the finals. WE upset the first place team 5-3, 4-2 to advance. In the second game, they hit about six posts but the puck kept bouncing the right way. Felt pretty good to win, our team is a bunch of pluggers, guys with some Jr B. and Jr C. exp. a few years ago, but not really talent laden.

Toast: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 6:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
My Sat. A team finished first, we get the sixth place team in the first round. Should be interesting, they can score goals but can't keep them out. They have a few guys who have played some minor minor (double minor intentional) hockey like in Texas or the ECHL, but they have a sub-par goalie who kills them weekly. If they pull a tending switch, we could be in for a fight. My Tues team finished second and draw a creampuff for the first round, a team we usually handle well.

Toast: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 6:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
However, a problem has arisen for me. I am supposed to go to Montreal for a 30+ tourney, but my Sat. A team plays there entire best 2 out of 3 finals that weekend. What do I do? The tourney team is kind of dependent on me, while the A team is very good, and some nights I don't get a lot of work. However, it is the finals vs. a tourney.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
ahhh, thought it was just me that couldn't get the log. We started our playoffs this weekend won our fri game 4-2, and then had a rough game sat night which we won 8-4, I got plowed into, never saw it coming, pretty sore today, glad we dont have to play til Sat. The first place team asked me to sub for them Sat night, but it was right before our game, so no... now we play them next. Plus am on the list of goalies who are not able to sub in C or C1 for playoffs.... was nice, the list is the 4A and 3B goalies out of 13 which i am one.

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys...nice to see the CHat trimmed down, couldn'tload it there for a day or two....

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Re-surfacing after a rough weekend post-chemo....allergic reaction to a shot on Thursday, did not eat for like 3 days. Don't recommend it! Not safe to play hockey at the weight I'm at right now!....

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile my Birds are unable to beat the hapless Predators, ten run smack into Mike Richter in a tie v NYR last night. Richter stuffs Jagr on an OT breakaway gee that guy is flexible! But I should hardly complain, my Fave Fowl are 2 pts back of NJ for the Div lead....

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 11:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yeah, that was some save Ricky made last night. J.S. Aubin had a pretty sweet glove save in the OT, too. I thought he was fighting the puck a little after Stevens' so-so goal, but he settled down in a big way.

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 11:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yah I actually thought both goals on JS were weak. But in between he made some good saves...

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 12:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Pens are really not putting the puck in the net the way they ought to. SHould have had a handful v Rangers and Nashville. Kovalev dry lately, Morozov and Lang too. Straka and Jags the only ones scoring.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 7:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... Was talking to my friend Blake Robson of the Portland Winterhawks. He might be able to get me some ice time with them. So that would be cool..... Had sort of a pick up game yesterday. We mixed two teams, against two mixed teams. We lost 3-2 in a shootout. I played extremly well. Must have faced at least 40 shots. Tremendous saves all night. It was a lot of fun.

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey all I see the log is availiable again.... WEEEEEEE

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Two fronts for news.... First my league entered the playoffs again with our first game on Sun... Won 5-2 and I played pretty damn well..... One given up on a third rebound and the second on a attempted clearing pass from my stick right to their players tape right in the slot.... But all in all I think I fared well saw about 35 shots and let 2 in.... not a bad night and enough to advance....

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for my Yotes..... They make a huge take in getting the second line center they have wanted for a while..... Rhicle looked great in his first game... ESPN Vs. Kings.... Should have shot more, but I think they have turned the corner and are ready to play with the big boys.... but The stars tomorrow night... big test.... My prediction Dallas 2 Yotes 4 with an empty netter... Drake, Yolonen, and Sullivan all back.... Maybe the Yotes are trying to make a run for the cup..... As for the trade had to give up a young prospect in Isbister, but with the play of adams and tkchoke would have stayed a third liner for about three years yet..... Plus we swap fourth rounders with the Islanders (improving our position..... Good For the Yotes.... And as I could not get on the log over the last week..... Stlenkov (sp) played well in his first two starts..... Last second winner by Tkchoke in the Joe and A tie in the Keil (SP).... Not a bad trip..... Got Playoff tickets ordered and will enjoy my first whiteout...... LETS GO COYOTES!!!!!!!!

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And the most imortant part of my return..... Arizona thoughts to the Smottmaster.... Thoughts are there and you gave got to be a fighter if you are a chick tender... Hang in there lady........

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 8:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Had an awesome game tonight. Unfortunately I lost the cheerio with 2 minutes remaining on a race out to the blue line to clear a turnover. Another guy snagged it out of the air and it was a backwards race that I almost won but I was skating when he released and didn't get much extension. My guys played excellent , those that showed and I had some really good saves. No better feeling than when a team starts gaining steam and everything starts to click. Smott, your in my thoughts and prayers, hang in there goalie :-)

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Mar 22, 10:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... I have a question. Do any of you play better when you are focused? Or more laid back. For example. Mike Richter(focus), Martin Brodeur(laid back)..... Like you spend an hour or something just focusing in the locker room, or you are laid back and having fun chatting, etc. I feel I play better when I am more laid back and having fun. Any comments?

Vile: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 7:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
In my limited experience, I found when I am chatty, my defense gets worried, loses a little confidence, and plays better in front of me. When I act like a wall, they seem to think I am in a zone, and play really weak. Of course, last time, I was in a zone. Made first 12 saves, then let in 4 on the next 12 or so. Made all the hard saves, and let in the really lame.

C5: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 9:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, I have often wondered the same thing. Focus? Or laid back? Personally, I think it's focus. I was reading Newsweek's profile of DiMaggio and they were saying how he made everything look so effortless. The guys on his team, however, always said that under the surface, he was SERIOUSLY intense. I think that eve the most laid-back looking goalie is pretty focused.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 9:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... C5----- Sometimes I play extremely well when I'm focused. Others I over focus and play crappy. Yet I think being a little laid back can help keep things fun and not make your brain explode. When you are laid back, playing becomes more fun. Things like that..... It all depends on yourself. Either focused or laid back. Whatever works for you..... Another thing. Does anyone in here have a lot of hockey dreams and goalie related dreams? I have them almost every night. Last night I dreamed a lot about hockey. First I was playing a game at Valley Ice and the other goalie took a players stick and skated all the way to the other blue line and took a slap shot which I stopped, but I was outraged that he did this and the ref didn't call a penalty for him skating over the red line with the puck. I argued with the ref and told him and he said it didn't matter..... Later I dreamed I was practicing with Patrick Roy and Ed Belfour. So that was pretty cool. I also went to Canada in my dream. It was a sweet dream. I am wondering, does any one here sometimes know that they are dreaming? and control what is going on? I do. Also, I can remember everything in my dream in almost perfect detail. Which is cool..... Hell. Even when I woke up I was still arguing about that goalie skating over the redline! I was happy that it was a dream. Or I would have had to open a can of whoop-ass on that jerk for pulling a stunt like that.

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 9:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Speaking as the resident laid-back goalie, I think you've got to balance the two. If you're too intense, you're going to be burned out. If you're too laid back, you sometimes get passive. Even guys like Richter and WAH joke with the linesmen and defense, and guys like Fuhr and Brodeur know how much concentration it takes to focus for 60 minutes. Personally, I may laugh and joke, bob my head to the music and sing, or whatever between whistles... but when the puck is in play, it's all intensity. I guess everyone approaches it differently, but I really believe that you need to balance the two.

Sieve: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 10:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast, I concur. Played playoff game #2 last night, sorta... the game was called 7 mins. in, other team was playing a suspended player. Sucks in a way but in the playoffs a W is a W. On the other hand he is a major ringer and had scored 2 goals in those 7 mins. hehe...

Sieve: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 10:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
woops, I mean Tripp (not toast)!!!

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 10:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The Red Wings just aquired Wendell Clark for Kevin Hodson and a draft pick. Hope Kevin wasn't banking on good defence! And... The Buffalo Sabres acquired Joe Juneau and a third-round draft pick from the Washington Capitals for Alexei Tezikov (D). The Washington Capitals sent left wing Tom Chorske to the Calgary Flames for future considerations.

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:14AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys. Hmm as for trades here's hoping the Pens can get a tough D without giving up too much....but I doubt it. May just go into the playoffs as is. Need to get Hatcher & Barrasso back soon.

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for focus v laid-back, well allow me an opinion....guys, EVERY GREAT GOALIE IS FOCUSED. I think we've sort of confused "focused" with "intense" as an external type appearance. When you're playing well you're focused, period. You may appear to be very intense, a la Richter, or off on Cloud Nine like Fuhr, but you're focused.

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
In sports psychology terms this hi-focus state is referred to as (uh oh) "arousal" or optimum arousal if you will, ie the state in which we, er, perform our best.

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I think our debate is what does it take to get to that high arousal, a lot of intensity or a lot of relaxation? My answer is, everybody's different, but most folks are somewhere in between. It's rare for an athlete to be at his/her best when extremely wound up, but some can be, like John McEnroe, who could be brilliant in the middle of a tantrum. Equally rare is the athlete who's great when extraordinarily relaxed, such as Bjorn Borg, who was winning WImbledon with a heart rate of like 35.

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:22AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Pardon the tennis analagies! But anyway it's a good experiment for us all to do....remember how you feel when you're really in the zone - were you wound up like an alarm clock? Or relaxed like Gumby? I think I tend more towards the relaxed, but I can get too lethargic also and make lazy mental errors at times. Think back to your best games and figure out where you were on the intense/relaxed scale when you were, uh, optimally aroused, and performing your best!

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...and thanks for the kind thoughts and words guys! I will be back on the ice tonight. Have lost 4-5 pounds unfortunately, but my appetite is coming back. Now I can eat: bread, cheese, spaghetti, and Caesar's Salad. Strangely, only the latter was in my diet before chemo! :-D

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
All the talk about "Focus" and "laid back" shows a difference in personality type and will differ from person to person since each handles stress in a different manner. However this talk reminded me of an article I read that deals with this topic somewhat. You can check it out at this button

Sieve: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi smott! cant get the whole story but looks like B. Ranford now wears the Winged Wheel also... hmm, why?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
That button doesn't seem to work. Try this button

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 12:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
OK, that one works like it's supposed to. Read up kiddies and improve your game !! :-)

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 4:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chelios, Ulf Samuelson, and Bill Ranford are now Red Wings! Vincent Damphousse is a Shark, Yanic Perreault is a Maple Leaf, , Dale Hunter is an Av, Derek Plante is a Star and Peter Zezel traded to the Mighty Ducks.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 6:16PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I can see some of the trades the wings made as good moves but they must of been smoking crack when they decided on Ranford. I really don't think his past experience is going to add much depth in goal. Anyone else have any thoughts on this one?

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 23, 8:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Damn the wings really got alot of help right at the deadline.... the needed d and they got some D.... The Yotes Pick up neckar (sp) for Jason Doig..... Listning to the Yotes on real audio right now.... 39 seconds left 3-2 Stars....... Six on the ICE...... Two gaols in the last 2 min by the Yotes...... Now 29 seconds..... Great ending........ I'm sure you'll all read about it tomorrow..... As for the focus question.... I'm more the richter type.... Not talking just playing... Yotes Lose 3-2..

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 5:24AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Cdp, my thought on the Ranford deal is that they get a backup goalie with playoff experience for the stretch and also a goalie they can expose to the bluejackets when the time comes. This way if Ozzie goes down or implodes they dont have to rely on Maracle who didnt get his first NHL ice time until mid-this season.

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 5:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
btw, Ranford is making 3 large bills per year. whew!

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 5:29AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Doesn't Ranford have a cup ring???? I could be wrong.

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 5:30AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Still, Maracle looks like competition for Ozzie in net. Might they do a Flyers act and share the load more?

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 5:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
c5, I think he's sporting two rings. Maracle does have good game, but to go with him in the playoffs? I think Scotty would be crazy... then again if there is one coach that could get away with it...

Papillon: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 6:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5, I just checked oout your website. I love the big NHL pictures, I've got one of the WAH ones as my wallpaper at work.

snowman: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 6:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
detroit goes forthe "D"..... this is what they needed most.... to me the Wings stock went up for this years final dash at the cup. It should be very interesting PO season

Goal35: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 6:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yup, Ranford won 16 in playoffs with Edm to get his cup ring

Vile: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:33AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Now, everyone knows I am a Stars fan... but I am really not impressed by the Detroit trade. I was surprised by the moving of Chelios at all, but here's my take.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Detroit is DESPARATE. Let's make a poker analogy. In 5 card draw, you draw 4 cards, you weren't dealt a very good hand. I always liked Chelios, but the only thing people really mention is how many minutes he plays. He has a lot of heart and competetiveness, but he is 37 yrs old... I am not saying Detroit shouldn't have picked him up, but I don't think he is the D god some make him out to be. Wendal Clark... I like him too, but I will predict his demise in a series against Colorado. He is a little too fragile to stand up to the physical abuse the Detroit/Colorado games generate. Ulf Samuelson? Maybe next year. Ranford... I guess they wanted an experienced playoff goalie.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
On the whole, nothing Detroit did yesterday scares me at all. I am impressed with Colorado. That team has some things to fear, and I think they want it more than Detroit.

Vile: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for the package JAKE. I think those will work nicely.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 9:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm it seems that the Wings have mortgaged a bit of the future to try to get 3 in a row. Wouldn't call it desperate exactly but maybe they feel they're as close to a 3rd Cup now as they'll ever be and need that extra help on D to get them through, even if it is long in tooth D....

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 9:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I was surprised with the Ranford deal. It says to me that the Wings are a lot less confident in Ozzie than they're letting on.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 9:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...and did anybody see poor Chelios sniffling at his pres conference. That guy didn't want to leave Chitown.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 9:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for moi, got shellacked big-time last night by the best team in the league. 15-2 on about 60+ shots. Geez was I beat. This chemo thing is like playing after you've had a bad stomach flu. Weak and tired the whole time. Sucking gatorade like a fish after the game.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 9:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Also last night, one of my poor D blocked a screamer with his, um, cup. I must say it is hard for me to relate exactly but I did feel for the guy. He was down for like 5 minutes making the most painful-sounding noises. All my guys looked stricken, they finally carried him to the bench and he lay there for 2 periods.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 10:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...on the plus side, nobody screened me for the rest of the night! :-D

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 10:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Desperate? naa, just doing all they can. I'm excited about the changes around here. Tonite's game will be interesting for sure with all the new numbers skating around. I dont think the Wings mortgaged too much of their future. It's not like Chelly is a rental, they'll get a couple years out of him. Yes, old, but just look at the Murph. Vile, you may be right about Wendell not surviving a real physical series. Thats all they need, another multi-million $ spectator (see U. Krupp). ugh... The more i think about the Ranford deal, the more I like it too. Sorry about the long wind....

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 10:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hiya Sieve...

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 10:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm you guys have higher opinions of Ranford than I do....

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I agree, Sieve. It's not like the Rangers giving up Doug Weight, Matty Norstrom and Tony Amonte here. Now THAT was mortgaging the future for the present! Chelios and Samuelsson give them two more mean, physical defensemen to throw at Dallas and Colorado. Eriksson looks like he'll be pretty good. But from what I've seen in person and in the AHL, Maracle looks better than Hodson. I still don't have much faith in Osgoat, but he's not going to have to stop 40-50 shots a night like Kolzig did last year. These playoffs should be very interesting.

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
BTW... Hang in there smottsie! Glad to hear you're back in net.

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
No one mentions MaCoun. I think he's awesome. Personally, I think the trades are super, super smart. Clark? Chelly? Let's not forget the mental part of the game, here. These guys want their names on the cup, and they feel they deserve it. Bowman's not Bob Clark. He's not some schmuck who chooses players from a spreadsheet. Personally, I predict you'll see Ozzie all through Detroit's playoffs. If they were going to swap, they'd be swapping now in the run up. I am also unsue that Ozzie could stop 40-50 shots a game, but how often are you going to make it to the cup while allowing those kinds of shots, anyway? Washington did, and they got swept. Bowman's no idiot, and he's smart enough to know that a goalie can carry you to the finals (think Richard Brodeur) but never to that 16th game. That's it.

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Still, this whole trade concept thing sucks. Teams should... I dunno. Basically, Detroit might win it three times, but it'll be three different sets of wings... Hardly the '84 Oilers.

Toast: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:40AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Okay, my take on the trades. Detroit is obviously loading up for the Cup, and I think they are much stronger for the next six weeks or so. Those who think Clark will fold...newsflash - he scores big goals in big games. That is all he does anymore, but that kind of guy is gold in the playoffs. As for picking up Ranford, strictly insurance. As for Osgood, like him or hate him, until he costs Detroit a cup, ya can't knock the guy. Soft goals or not, fact is he gave Detroit enough to win it last year and you can't argue with that.

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottie, I played Monday night and was on fire. I let in a few softies but made some stops that were insane. I was playing the puck EVERYWHERE, even hitting the glass and making it out of the zone (!!!), and got burned on the 2nd goal while way out of the net. My D was sliding around making stops. It was so cool to have their support. Remember, tell your guys that when they slide, it's one hand over their face, another over the groin!

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Toast, I agree. Moog wrote an article here in town about the ins and outs of scouting, what he's learning, etc., and probably the most interesting thing about a goalie is not consistency, but his big game potential. Some goalies, Moog said, "let in goals, but help their teams win games" (article in front of me). I only half grokked this statement. What does that mean to you?

Toast: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:44AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Actually, I think the trade deadline should be back in February sometime to stop the rent a player thing...as for sleeper teams, I have to admit in the East Buffalo scares me. A lot. Everyone talks about Philly, NJ, even Ottawa, yet no one mentions the Sabres. But with a healthy Dom, who just had a few weeks off with a groin pull, be mighty careful. In the West - I am going to go with the Avs for now. Just a hunch, but I have a feeling that team is ready to make some noise. Proven playoff goaltending (sorry Dallas and Phoenix), and oodles of talent. I think Hunter will be big in the dressing room.

Toast: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for Detroit going for three, I think if they really want a place in hockey history, you gotta do it. Three in a row is a mean feat, some good teams never did that. For example, Flyers of the 70s, the Bruins in the early 70s, even Edmonton did not do three. Win one Cup - after a few years you get lost in the shuffle of past winners. Win two, okay a good team. Win three...elite. Four...dynasty, and five...ah...Habs. Darn.

gbfreeman: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 11:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for Chelios and Clark wanting their name on the cup, Doesn't Chelios have his on their already (Montreal)? Just wondering. Well, with 1 game remaining, my team is 7-2 and in first. Last game will be for seeding (Could finish anywhere from 1rst to 3rd). Team has been together three seasons and is really starting to play "D" intelligently. They are starting to develop a 6th sense for location of teammates. 1 game tonight and 2 tomorrow.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 12:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes I thought Chelios got a ring w/Habs.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 12:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yep Toast is right Ozzie hasn't cost them a Cup, yet. But Wings don't have the margin of superiority over other teams now that they enjoyed last year. In fact they'll need goaltending to eleveate them. Should be an interesting test for Oz.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:22PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 as for Moog's remark, I think he meant it's not really how many goals you let in, it's which ones. And which saves you make, when. A couple big saves at the right time can lift the team and help it overcome even a soft goal or two. And even if you're like 2.0 GA, if you let in a real stinker just when they need you to be a wall, well....

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:25PM PST (-0700 GMT)
sure, Ozzie has his lapses occaisionally, but who doesnt? I think wingos CAN ride him all the way in, because when he does have a bad game, he seems to be able to shrug it off unlike many other playoff suspect goalies with whom he is being lumped. And when the Wiz is on I love to watch that lightning glovehand!

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for Detroit, they were good enough last year that Oz didn't matter. He was letting in fly balls from mid-field and you just knew they would win the game anyway. Not so this year. But maybe he'll toughen up, we'll see. If not, I doubt RAnford will get it done either.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yep I will say that Oz is able to shrug off stuff that would have other guys slashing their wrists....

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Personally I'd prefer he didn't let in the 80-footer to begin with, but you have to admire his resilience!

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 1:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi smott! You may be right about Ranford but if Ozzie goes down and you are Scotty wouldnt you take a little comfort looking down the bench and seeing two rings on Bill R's fingers rather than only seeing peachfuzz under Norm's mask?

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 I think I'm the only one who got the grock comment.... Heinlin is tough.... As for Ozbad making a run.... like I said before.... I think they won last year in spite of ozbad.... And the moves they made at the deadline (although the players are elderly) may just give the wings the muscle on D to win in spite of him again..... I think ozzie is an average goalie.... not one to steal a series... But with the scoring and great D the wings can bring... I think their stock rose a bunch yeaterday

deke: . . . . Wed, Mar 24, 8:55PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I've got to weigh in with those who think that Wings have to be odds on to threepeat(without permission of Pat Riley) Just can't argue with addition of Chelios and Clark, Sammy too, but with his busted wheel no telling when he's back. As for mortgaging the future, whatever it takes to win a first cup in 54 years is ok by me. By the way, heard tonight that Dom is in Germany seeing a groin specialist.

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 5:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Here is my entry for shallacking of the week...last night we played the local development league team, three lines plus, five veterans, the rest are a mixture of juniors (17+ years old) and 1 year semi-pro players, apparently its an annual thing, the dev team plays all the rec and university teams. Anyway, they beat us 16-6, they treated it like a scrimmage, we treated it like a war. I played ok, only one goal I was really mad at, shot from the blue line along the ice, straight through the five hole, due to my stick coming off the ice, doh!

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 5:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I got a new pair of skates during last summer, I have been getting them sharpened at the same place ever since, I have gotten then sharpend about every 20 hours of use. Yesterday in the shop, the guy tells me that my blades are bent, and that its a common problem with _big_ skates (I take a 10 1/2, I am 6' 11/2", 203 lbs). Now I am pretty clueless about this kind of stuff, so can anyone shed any light about what might have caused this. Things that I have thought of are a) improper skating technique b) product defect c) happened during sharpening d) caused by my size....Anyhow he straightened them out as much as he said he could, I looked carefully and I could see a little bend, but noithing to write home about...so I am wondering what I can do to stop this from happening again and how this will effect my skating.

Papillon: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 5:28AM PST (-0700 GMT)
playing again on saturday night, its my first home game, and its against the team that first I started training with. I also have the remains of a cold, so fingers crossed that play ok.

C5: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 6:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ozzie has proven that he steps it up a notch in the playoffs, IMHO. The only thing I wish he'd do better is find the puck in heavy action in his zone. The rest of the time I enjoy watching him. I don't know who's going to win it, but Detroit, Dallas and the Avs will be fun to watch. Toast, however, brings up a good point: The upsets last year weren't a fluke, necessarily, but may harken to more upsets like them this year, too. Could these rent-a-player teams find themselves at the mercy of teams who have nothing to play for but pure passion for hockey? Yeek. Better sign off THAT thought before I sound like Don Cherry.

JAKE: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 8:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
VILE: I'm glad that the stuff looks like it will work for you.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 9:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I still think Detroit is disparate. They HAD to make those moves. They looked good last night, admittedly, but I will reserve judgement until the first round of the playoffs.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 9:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The Stars added a little frosting to their cake, but I think Theo and Dale are huge additions to Colorado.

Fourqts: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 11:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
So now that the deadline has come and past..... Who are you all picking to make noise in the Playoffs and also come out of the east and West.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 12:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
By the way, I am unclear on the seating for the playoffs. I heard something about the teams being reseated after the first round based on records. So while Phx might be 4th at the opening, they could be reseated higher later...

z-man: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 2:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Last night I got a penalty in my roller hockey game for delay of game. I went out to near the top of the faceoff circle to intercept a breakaway pass, and as I tried to stop, I fell on my ass. I managed to hook the puck over and cover it just before the winger got to it. The ref said I only had from the faceoff dots back to cover it. What weird rules! It is because they play two 22 min halves, running clock. Is that standard in roller hockey? Still won 6-4. I find it hard to transition to roller skates after 4 nights of ice hockey.

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 2:50PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Vile the NHL reseeds the brackets after each round.... Therefore if the 8th seed beats the first seed, then that 8th seed has to play the highest seed surviving the first round..... The Idea I think is to ease the trip to the finals for higher seeded teams (and therefore increase the value of a high finishing position)..... But I'm not so sold on giving the division winners the top three seeds.... Maybe just guaranteeing the divisional winners playoff spots. IE the east's problem currently with the third seeded team having like the 8th beft record in the east.

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 2:51PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man I've heard of the same rule and I think it applies in both roller and Ice.

z-man: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 5:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I don't know how consistent the rules are, in my ice hockey league I can cover all the way to the blue line, with no penalty (and I often do - a sad statement about my defense!)

smott: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 6:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes I believe there is "re-seeding" after each round of the playoffs, the highest seed plays lowest etc. This confuses me because it's so unlike my other sport, tennis!

smott: . . . . Thu, Mar 25, 6:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yikes, FIVE goals in the first period with my Pens v NJ....Marty really fighting with the puck. Barnaby scores his first. Is it just me or are the Devils lacking some discipline at home?....

Sieve: . . . . Fri, Mar 26, 6:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
morning all... And so another season of Firecats hockey comes to a disappointing end... Here's a helpful tip - don't choose game three of your playoffs for your team to play their worst game in two years. 9-2 debacle, ugh.

Sieve: . . . . Fri, Mar 26, 6:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
on the other hand I was PIM's leader last night. 5+2+2. Ya, baby!!!

: . . . . Fri, Mar 26, 8:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Okay, seeding, not seating. So, here is my senario question. If all top 4 seeds in the west adavnce past the first round. Yotes stay 4th seed right? So it would be Avs vs Wings, Yotes vs Stars? re-seeding means there are no brackets, not that Coyotes could be re-seeded above detroit in the second round because of their better record.

Vile: . . . . Fri, Mar 26, 8:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
oops, me

smott: . . . . Sat, Mar 27, 7:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yep Vile believe that is correct. If top four advance, 1 v 4, 2 v 3.

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C5: . . . . Sat, Mar 27, 6:40PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Whatever. I have officially accepted a job in Manhattan. Tripp, you're a genius. I also heard about the league in Chelsea Piers, which would only be a quick uptown train from work, and I could leave my equipment at the office, if I wanted to. Do you happen to have any more info on that league?? I have to have my fix!! And I will be selling my car...

Toast: . . . . Sat, Mar 27, 8:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm...a question, is LACKO short for "lack of class"? Just wondering...

: . . . . Sat, Mar 27, 11:09PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does anyone wear a mouthpiece under their helmet?

fourqts: . . . . Sat, Mar 27, 11:58PM PST (-0700 GMT)
... no moutnpiece here.... and Lacko Get The F*** lost you loser.... C5 good luck in NY and hopr you do not become a ranger fan...... Root for the Sabres and the Dom

Seive: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 7:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Congrats C5. Major change of scenery. My sister/bro in law just moved from Manhattan (Grammercy area) if you need any advice let me know.

Seive: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 8:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
The NCAA hockey tourney is being shown on PBS in my area. Thats weird. Anyone else get it on PBS? No mouthpiece here either.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 10:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
No mouth piece here either. If your wearing a mask I really don't see any reason to wear one unless it's a rule. If you wear a helmet cage combo I could see the benifits of a mouth piece. The mouth piece is more for those who expect to receive sudden impacts ie: body contact, checking. Everyone here will probablly agree with me, a goalie may get run into on a few rare ocassions but it's not the norm. Plus try yelling to your team mates with a mouth piece in, it comes out all scrammbled. If you feel comfortable using a mouth piece then stick with it.

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deke: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 2:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey C5 Good luck in NYC - Let me know if you're looking for a good deli or pizzeria - Ah for a slice of Original Rays. As for becoming a Ranger fan, you've got to be hardened to accept long-term disappointment. Hope it works out for you.

Tripp: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 3:54PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yikes. Does your mommy know you use the computer Mr. Wacko? You must be popular with the ladies... sitting at home on a Saturday night and spamming an internet board, and all.

Tripp: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 3:54PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Any way to delete that crap, guys? His post, not mine :-)

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 5:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Carpe De Puck----- Goalies should be allowed not to wear a mouth piece if they don't want to. In my league goalies need to wear them, but I don't and the refs don't care..... Does anyone in here curve their own sticks? I like to have a little extra curve in my sticks for better puck handling. Remember JOEY? Once he put a 5-6 inch curve in his stick. I couldn't believe it. Once I took a shot with it and the puck almost went straight up in the air..... Any comments about curving your own sticks? ..... Another thing. Remember when I told you guys about Marc Aercio? The guy who played for the Blackhawks(NHL) about eight minutes as a goalie? Well I did some research about his past teams(Portland Winterhawks, Portland Jr. Bucs) and I never found anything about him. I look at the all-time record of players/stats in the NHL and couldn't find him. When I talk to him about his stint with the Blackhawks he makes it sound odd. Like that he faced 38 shots in eight minutes or something. Like his story changes. I am wondering if he ever did play in the NHL or whatever. He is a pretty nice guy. What should I do? Confront him about my suspicion? Any comments?

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 5:16PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks, everyone! I appreciate the well-wishing. Seive, I stayed at the Grammercy Hotel Thursday & Friday. Kind of an oddity to me, very old. Walked all over NYC, bought some sunglasses, etc. Can tell that real estate will be super expensive and so will food, but clothes and transportation-- especially since I'm selling my car, won't be. Anyone have a line on a good apartment? Let me know. I'm thinking Park Slope area, near the park, or maybe East Village for a while.

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 5:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, GH, that's a problem, there are a lot of poser goalies out there, who say they played with NHL teams, or whatever...

C5: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 5:18PM PST (-0700 GMT)
No mouthpiece here, either. Playing tonight. My last game. Any info on Chelsea Piers hockey, let me know.

Tripp: . . . . Sun, Mar 28, 5:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'd like to help you out C5, but I'm not a Noo Yawkah. I've played at the Piers, Rye, as well as Voorhees, NJ (where the Flyers practice) but I don't really have any info for ya. I have a few friends in NYC. I'll see what I can dig up for you as far as leagues and open hockey go. I'll tell ya though... some good hockey there. Some very good skaters and shooters. Bring your game when you show up

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 4:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Played my old team on Friday night, we shelled them 11-2. I only faced 20 shots, so I should have had the shut out, but I was getting cold from a lack of action toward the end of the second period, and they scored two soft goals right before the buzzer.

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 5:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Lacko try only saying things one time.

smott: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 5:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
NO worries Papillon. It is hard to focus in a cruiser like that.

Goal35: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 6:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
well, we lost in the semi-finals to the #1 team sat night, 5-4. a couple of bounces and we would have beat them, we missed alot of open nets. But we must have taken alot out of them cuz they lost the championship 4-2, they didnt look anything like the team we played the night before.. :) the #2 team won, was nice cuz i had subbed for them during the regular season and got 3 wins with them, one of them an A game which was the only B team to win against an A team all season.

Toast: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 6:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well, my Sat team opened with a 6-0 win our semis. Now off next week due to Easter, a long layoff between games. However, my Tuesday team opens tomorrow. Finally, my other team got swept in the finals two straight, so one team is over. Winter is winding down, but have two teams lined up for the summer league at this time.

C5: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 7:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
OK, I have to say this, especially after watching the Wings/Flyers game the other night. I've hesitated to say this for about a month, now, hoping someone else would bring it up, but I just don't like the way Beezer is playing in goal for the Flyers. I just don't think he's doing a good job. Yesterday's performance was a big case in point. First goal, a puck he could see all the way, and he can't glove it, instead bobbling it into the air where it's batted in for a goal. It's been things like this all along, in almost every Flyers game I've seen. Beez makes good stops when he's called on, but lately, he's gotten boring to watch. He's not playing with any creativity, I think. Anyone agree/disagree?

C5: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 7:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tripp, oh boy! I like the sound of "bring your game." And Toast, is Easter on the same day in Canada??

z-man: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 7:34AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yesterday, in practice, I got hit in the head 7 times, twice by the same guy, and my teammates wonder whats wrong? The captain asked me why I was moving aside when a certain player shot, and I responded by rebounding his next shot right to his head off my stick, and it hit him in the chest. C5, about NY, Park Slope is a good area to live in for a reasonable rent, but are you aware that it is in Brooklyn? Only an F-train ride from Manhattan... I don't live there anymore but I grew up there, before I ever played hockey though. Another cheap place to live is Astoria, in Queens, but I would choose Park Slope in Brooklyn or the neighborhoods around there, or farther into Queens like Flushing or Bayside.

Fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 12:53AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man here is the answer if the guy keeps head hunting in warmups and in practices...... Let him shoot into an empty net....... Remember you control the warmup (unless you like others dictating how you move when you are not completely stretched and or ready for say Deke's.....) If they are youngsters, I generally take them aside and let them know how they should help a goalie get warm.... I like Slappers from outside into the body to start, then Wristers to the corners, then have my skaters start in the corner and skate out in an arc then shoot, then if i have time I'll let them deke and of try redirecting slappers from the piont..... When I first started, and Let them just go crazy in warmups, I pulled something in my back and ached for weeks... now they listen or shoot at an empty net... I've pissed a couple of people off, but they generally apologise later and realize that I need to warm up my way just like they need to warm up their way... The catch being that I need shooters to warm up.... They do not need a tender (but a tender is nice)

z-man: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 1:11PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Thanks for the tips, 4qts, I tried to tell them I like outside slaps to start, and if they are good, they can breakaway at the end, but they don't get it. They think I am lazy during practice because I don't go down like I would in a game, I guess I need to be more assertive in laying down the law. BTW, where in Phx do you live? I used to live on 44 St / Ind Sch Rd when I lived in the valley.

Fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 1:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm at 7th street and Greenway..... And your dorks (I mean skaters) will get it if you let them shoot at nothing, if they are bad... Have one of them suit up just once.... The best cantidate is the captain..... then warm him up wrong.... you will get the greatest amount of respect once this happens..... Because the captain will be yelling at the team to "warm you up right".... I play with an ex major junior player on my team..... and I bitched to him a little.... now he rides the rest of the team if i drop out of net when they are warming up..... He is a great help (and it also is a plus that he is 6'3" and about 225...

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 3:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tournament time in phoenix..... And last night we went out to the eventual winners.... 7-6..... Alot of two on ones where my d would not stop the pass across.... They were making me feel pretty dumb in the net at the begining of the second period where they scored three quico on back door breakaway passes..... After the opening minutes of the second, We shut them down allowing only two hard slappers that came in off of the bars the rest of the game.... We pulled within 0ne with five and a half minutes left, but my o had no more go.... Had a few huge saves down the stretch to keep it at a one goal lead..... The entire opposing team said i played a great game.... I don't feel so good about it as we lost..... But the new season is coming......

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Mar 29, 5:36PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Whooo is my team pissed at me! Last night we got outshot 41-12 and lost 6-1. That really isn't so bad (grrr), however, at least 3 of the goals were caused by them trying to clear the zone by backhanding across the middle. When I commented on this, they responded with "Worry about your own job". So, the next time they made a horrendous play (we were down 5-1 at the time), I stepped aside and let the guy have the empty net. They started bitching and what could I do? Respond with "WORRY ABOUT YOUR JOB!". Needless to say, relations are strained to say the least.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 4:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
played pickup last night, highlight was that a Great Britain under 21 player turned up, he skated rings around everyone, I faced about 40 shots, 6 got by me, and 5 of those were from Mr. GB U21. But I admit that I really enjoyed playing against him for the experience.

Papillon: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 4:08AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I have been getting burned recently with a particular kind of shot and I cannot work out how to stop them. Basically its shots catcher side, above elbow level, with the puck real close to my arm. It feels too close into the arm to use the catcher. Does it sound like I am off my angle, and that I should alter the angle and get it in the upper body?

smott: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 6:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon sounds like you need to get familiar with the "chicken wing" save. It's an awkward spot in between glove and body but raising the elbow can maybe make that stop for you.

C5: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 6:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB, right on! I'm behind you on this. It's not that the other team isn't supposed to shoot, but they're supposed to NOT let the other team just WALK IN on you!!

C5: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 6:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes, Smottie's right, that save is much more effective because of its quickness. Higher-end players will just shoot it through you though if they're far enough out. It's usually a good move just for those close-in roofers where you're already in the 'fly.

Sieve: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 6:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Gbf, let me get this straight... they are pissed at you??? Sounds like a dense bunch to me. I've been tempted to leave the net open a couple times on some of my teams worse nights but cant make myself do it. Usually when I get fed up with them I'll start goofing off to save my sanity, i.e. skating out to the blue line to play the puck. Doesnt win games but what the hey, if you're getting blown out you might as well have fun...

: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 7:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Played my first league game last night, won 5-1. I faced only 10 shots while the other guy took 30. I liked the win, but I would have rather seen more action myself. Lost shut out bid in my first game ever with 6 minutes left in the game on a rebound I almost had. Oh well, a win is a win.

Vile: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 7:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Dang it, that was me.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 8:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB.... I've been known to do just that but it is generally when my team is winded and they start camping at the centerline and yelling for a pass..... Then, if they get lippy..... I just that i saw that they were so tired that the only way to give them enough time to get to the bench and get a rest is to either freze the puck or allow a goal... And the percentages of freezing are much lower than those of an empty netter........ therefore, inorder to compensate for their inability to change quickly when they are tired... they forced me into doing it.... I don't think anyone understood my logic at first but i had no arguments....

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 8:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
throw in a "say" between "just" and "that" then I may actually make a little sense

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 8:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Vile congrats on the first winner...... and don't get too hung up on the shutout deal..... I tend to losten up and play much better after I have one scored on me.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 8:49AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And a little note from my investigation of the new hockey outfitters web page.... It seems thst scott has done a little expansion in his absence from the chat..... The catalogue is noting battram goal pants and cups coming for 1999...... Nice Scott.... Don't even mention things like this to the faithful chatters that prop your equipment at every turn........ I'm ready to see the stuff now, but the HOutfitters site is not complete yet.. . and no word on the Battram site.... Must be top secret

Vile: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 10:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
No worries, shutouts are fascist. It amused me tho. The stat man was very generous. I touched the puck, at most 7 seven times, and I wouldn't call half of them saves. But a 90% save is nice. I have no illusions as to my abilities after one game. If I had faced 30 shots like the other goalie, I wouldn't have fared as well as he did. Still, I played my angles well. My wife thought I couldn't take a compliment well, because I began explaining to her all the things I know I did wrong (Safe bet there are several I don't know), but I think you must be critical of yourself within reason.

Tripp: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 11:36AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Just my $0.02 -- I can sympathize with ya Gbf... but I have never, and will never, give anyone a free goal. I mean, I've mishandled the puck and given up some cheap ones. Who hasn't? But no matter how snotty and whiny my teammates get, I try to hang in there. Still....letting you get shelled with 41 shots, and throwing sloppy plays... they should be more angry at themselves and quit snapping at you. It sucks when a team lets the goalie get toyed with just because they're feeling sorry for themselves. Hopefully you guys can let bygones be bygones and put it together for your next game.

z-man: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 1:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
4qts, I am going to Phoenix at the end of April, where is the best place to skate (ie public skate)? I will be in Tempe, Scottsdale area, not up north as you are. If you have any games around May 1 I would go to see your Battram pads as I am curious what they are like.

fourqts: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 3:23PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z Man I'll bw playing roller on the night of May the 2nd but it will be across town from tempe scottsdale.... As for the best place to skate.... the question is roller or ice.... for roller and a conditioning skate, I suggest the Indian bend wash park.... which is about 10 miles of two lane concrete with underpasses for the roads.... I try to get out and do a 15 mile jaunt each saturday morning.... If you want to skate on the Ice then your choices are Oceanside Ice arean (button or the coyotes Ice den in north scottsdale. The Coyotes place is nice!!!! but more dollars. I'm trying to play alot of open hockey there but it is mostly afternoons.... and i get there when I can so cannot promise a time to be there with my job. Just Drop me an email letting me know when you are in town and we'll work something out to see my pads. fourqts@primenet.com

4: . . . . Tue, Mar 30, 3:44PM PST (-0700 GMT)
sorry the buttons were bad oceanside button ice den button

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 7:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys...gearing up for playoffs this weekend! Finally feeling a tad more up to par though I can't kick this (*&(& sinus infection.....will go to some p/u hockey on Friday and then hope for the best Saturday first round in C.....

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 7:27AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Meanwhile GEEZ but my Pens are playing horrible, blow a 3-0 lead to Ottawa. Last 3 games they have blown 2 3rd period leads, and now this. Constantine questions their will in the paper. Uh oh. We could be gettign ready for another playoff fade like last year. On the other hand, if this keeps up, they will maybe wind up in the coveted 6th spot v Carolina!...

fourqts: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 8:31AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Look at those Yotes last night..... Score six in the first period and even a power play goal...... Is this a sign of the offense to come????? I think not but six in a period was fun to watch....

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 8:57AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ah 4q I think your Puppies will be OK.

smott: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 8:59AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm more curious to watch Bullies & Devils....will they pull another disappearing act this year? Philly I think maybe yes...Devils, no. They seem too strong.

Tripp: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 9:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Anyone see the shot Tabaracci took last night? Snap shot dead smack in the throat. Gave him a pretty nasty bruise. He's lucky that's all he got! He hung in and finished the game though.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 10:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... I received two sticks yesterday from Brian Gee. One of the sticks is a "curtis curve". I have a question about that stick. Why is the end of the stick curved? You know, where the knop is. It curves up.

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 10:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Uh... Empty netters, 4q? I tend to develop hearing loss when it's 5-2 and my team is yelling at me, with 45 seconds left, to come off the ice for the extra man... :D

C5: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 10:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, I used to use that stick. Just wait. You'll find out when you go paddle down on a save. That curve is perfect for picking the puck off someone's stick.

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Mar 31, 11:35AM PST (-0700 GMT)
yeah, that is if the heal on the CC lasts long enough for you to find out. I think their durability is not too good.

smott: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 7:48AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm I think Toastie usest he CC and likes it a lot. Very good for the paddle-down save.

Sieve: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 10:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi smott! I dont think CC's are bad sticks, in my experience they just dont last long. I'm currently using a Hespeler that very light and wearing like its made of steel. also if you are not the greatest puckhandler in the world (like me), forget the CC...

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 11:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Those sticks were just too weird for me. I had trouble poke checking. I dunno. They were definitely easy to pick up and put the paddle down though. Some guys swore by them. Personally, I used to love the old Helite III's. Those things took a beating. I'm still using Helite IV's and the Koho 500's.

Sieve: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 1:14PM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi tripp, i'm having your old 5500 re-altered a bit. still working good...

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 1:24PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm with tripp in that I just think they look too weird.... I'll stick with my regular sticks (Reactor 5's) but am forced to use a TPS stick currently as Bauer seems to have basically shut down its operations to change over to '99 products and nobody in AZ has any reactor 5's..... But a stick question.... I know other companies make them but bauer is going to offer a 100% composite stick next year (hasek using right now) supposed to be super light and strong.... Sounds interesting to me... but what good is a light stick when you are hacking at ankles.... The TPS is heavy compared to my old reactor sticks (which i left at the rink last week like a moron).... Maybe those who like to hang by the crease will think again after a good whack.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 2:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Does anyone else have probs wit this page when it 1st loads up? It's like the text is wider than the box and I have to scroll to the right to read sentences. After I click on chat though it goes back to normal. Anyone have the same on their end?

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 2:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
I liked CC at first and the curve does work. The curved knob on the end came in handy when I had to pick the stick up and it did send the puck away from the net if it rolled off the end. But alas, the heel of the stick is more fragile than Tommy B and lasted about as long as he did this season. I ended up fiberglassing it myself to use as a warm up stick but now it sits in the corner since I don't care for the lie of it anymore. For clearing the crease out I'll take my Louisville TPS gold any day, thats one serious piece of lumber but doesn't really feel heavy if thats possible. I love my Heaton Helite IV's but they don't do much good when you whack ankles.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 2:48PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Had a Mike Vernon save the other night. Guy took a pass right on my doorstep and fired it right as I reached over for it. Woman in the score box sounded the horn and the ref pointed at the goal and blew the whistle. I stood up and raised the big mitten in the air and to the amazement of all that little black bastard known as Puck was inside and I let him fall to the ice with the biggest shit eating grin on my face. That really took the wind out of the other teams sails and pumped my team. I ended up having a really good night and made some outstanding saves but the rest of the team was a little off and allowed people to park on my door step...you know the rest. I felt like I had a good game though at the end of the night. I decided to take a few days off since I've been playing 5 days a week for awhile now and even though I'm playing strong I know I need a rest or else a big let down is bound to come crashing down. Don't you just love Hockey guys? :-)

fourqts: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 3:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
your problem is due to one of mr lamea**'s posts being wider than normal

z-man: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 4:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Last night in my roller hockey game, I was standing on my head to keep my team in the game. We lost 5-4 and were outshot 55-15. There was a defenseman on my team that stood in front of the net about 5 feet and I could beat him to a loose puck, and often had to, to keep the opponent from getting it. I wish it wasn't so hot playing roller hockey, there is no ice to spray on your face, and then there is the problem of trying to skate over puddles of your own sweat and water bottle dribble. We had a penalty shot with about 0:30 left but missed it, was a frustrating outcome. It is hard for me to transition from 4 nights of ice hockey to roller hockey, and the side to side is hard on my ankles. Not to mention I fall - a lot! (especially when I try to skate out and puck handle)

GoalieHawk: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 4:07PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... I just called the assistant coach of the Powell River Kings of the BCHL(Jr.A). I possibly could go to their Junior Prep Camp. Going to send him a video today or tomorrow..... anyone know about the BCHL? Ever seen a game? Any comments?

C5: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 7:10PM PST (-0700 GMT)
CdP, great job!! Anyone-- ANYONE-- that makes a Mike Vernon save is OK in my book! I made JUST that same save in an away intermural hockey game in high school. We were playing with these leather and felt pucks in gymnasiums. I was in goal, wearing cricket pads. Scrum in front of the net, puck gets lifted up... I couldn't see it.. I just followed the heel of the stick up with my glove. The stick went up and into the net, the home crowd went wild, and I just stood up and calmy presented the thing-- I dare not call it a puck-- to the ref. Ha!

C5: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 7:13PM PST (-0700 GMT)
SPEAKING of Mike Vernon, I have no idea who out there is enjoying the goalie picture gallery, but I sure get a kick out of collecting all these images. With me stressing out and changing jobs, I've been lax at collecting the images. Well, today's the day! I added SO many images. Roy, Brodeur, Aubin, Hackett, about 5 COOL Richter shots, Shields, Cloutier, Dafoe, fitzpatrick, fuhr, hasek, joseph, about 3 khabby ones, hebert, kidd, osgood, maracle, salo (one in islanders, one in Edmonchuck) tabby, turek, terreri, vokoun, and one mystery NHL goalie, the new Islanders guy. Also, the gallery was getting too big, so it's split up, now, for us modem people. Enjoy! And please, let me know if you enjoy the gallery, becuase I have no idea if the pictures are popular. Thanks!

C5: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 7:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
(as always, the link is below)

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 10:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Your mystery Isles goalie is Wade Flaherty. He had an awesome playoffs with the Sharks a few years ago

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 10:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Some entertaining college hockey today. Maine's goalie was awesome. He really kept them in there. Once again my Oilers get blasted in a game they had to have. They'd make easy prey for Dallas in the first round anyway, but I still think there's nothing better than playoff hockey, and I want my team to be there

Tripp: . . . . Thu, Apr 1, 11:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
And no worries about not updating the page, C5. It's cool of you to do. I dunno about anyone else, but I like the pics. The detail is awesome. So thanks for the work you put into it!

C5: . . . . Fri, Apr 2, 6:07AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Tripp, you mean the way the Oilers were easy prey for the Av's not so long ago? ;-) Shock the monkey!

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Apr 2, 8:15AM PST (-0700 GMT)
... not to mention knocking out the # 1 seed Dallas two years ago with Marchant's OT goal against Moog. But when they were upsetting the Avs and Stars, they had one big wildcard up their sleeve... Cujo.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Fri, Apr 2, 8:25AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 the pics page rules, keep up the good work

C5: . . . . Fri, Apr 2, 8:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Goalies! Many of you have been checking in periodically on the BIG picture page... well, there is now a SMALL picture page at this button ... On it are special selections of old, old pictures I've been saving for years. Some featured pix: Old Roy, Hasek in blue, and Beezer in Florida. And more! Check it out. Test your knowledge-- None of the pictures are labelled as to who they are, and some may be real blasts from the past.

Tripp: . . . . Fri, Apr 2, 2:08PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Bad news for the Flyers... I just heard on the Philly news that Lindros has a collapsed lung and possibly broken ribs. He may be out for the playoffs

fourqts: . . . . Sat, Apr 3, 11:50AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Had a great ice pickup game yesterday..... Left a few guys with their eyes bugged out and theirs jaws on the floor.... Awesome skate save on a two on none..... just enough to make the shot miss.... then a couple of ROY glove saves way out on the angle slowly raising the glove after the save.... Liking Ice alot better than roller. Ice seems to be more strain on the knees and hips... roller more ankles and groin. Hope the old knees hold up cause it sure is fun

Tripp: . . . . Sat, Apr 3, 3:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
my gosh... Pittsburgh goalies continue to drop like flies. J.S. Aubin... who stole my mask design, by the way >:-( ... goes out with a strained hammy. Barrasso still hurt... Skudra not 100%, but can play... smottsie still under the weather... maybe my pal Craig Hillier will get a look? Also... Byron Dafoe now leads the league in shutouts. One ahead of Dom. I love it

deke: . . . . Sat, Apr 3, 9:38PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Wow! Some great goaltending on both sides in the NCAA final. UNH goalie absolutely stood on his head in overtime. One second save sprawling like Dom and stops the shot with the back of his leg. UMaine clearly outplayed them though in the extra period to take the win 3-2. Very entertaining hockey.

Tripp: . . . . Sun, Apr 4, 10:49PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Well goalies... this'll be my last post for awhile. I go under the knife tomorrow at NYU medical center. Just wanted to wish everyone luck, injury-free games, and low GAA's. Take care guys!

Vile: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 6:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good Luck Tripp

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 6:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GOOD LUCK Trippster my thoughts are with you.....

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 6:46AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ooops guess I just missed Vile....

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yes indeed Pgh goalies are going down fast. Aubin has outplayed Skudra and deservedly got the start but he's out with the ham. Hillier realled, TB still out. Hatcher & Slegr returnign tonight but Pens are really sliding bad. Of course they could wind up in the 6th spot which would be good. Except the Flyers seem to be playign even worse and may beat themt o it!

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:01AM PST (-0700 GMT)
For moi, survived my Sat night game unscathed, 6-1. Though I must say it is depressing to have your hair falling out in tufts inside your mask!! Yuck. Also the mask wore a lovely bald spot on teh side of my head, most attractive I must say. I may try a little kerchief uner the helmet tonight, first game of B playoffs.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...and right now, I'm sitting at work in an Oleg Cassini jacket, and a baseball cap! It's a fashion statement.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Vile!...

Vile: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:03AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Smott, how are things going otherwise?

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:04AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Not too bad. Lost 10 lbs, gained back 5. Blood counts low but still in normal range. Nosebleeds constantly due to a sinus infection but I'm getting over that, just in time for Round 2 chemo on Wednesday! Yay.

Vile: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:06AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Ick... let us know if there is something we could do to help... can't actually imagine what that could be, but we could try :)

Vile: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:09AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Oh, something weird on Friday pick-up game. The ice was pretty slushy, and I had a guy follow through on a shot right in front of the crease, and threw a good chunk of slush in my face.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 7:13AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Yuck, hate that slush/face thing too, got that regularly last summer in leagues when the ice was very wet...

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 8:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hmmm sorry GH but I haven't heard of the BCHL....

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 8:55AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As for sticks, my current Koho ROy is now approaching it's 12 MONTH anniversary!! This is unheard of. Actually it's feeling pretty dead lately, I will probably just have to retire it. Never, ever had a stick last this long, usually 3 months tops.

Sieve: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 11:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Good luck Tripp! greetings ms. smott. Glad to hear you are still able to play... good luck with round 2! and try not to sweat the hair loss, just keep up the positive outlook!!!

Sieve: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 11:54AM PST (-0700 GMT)
and yes, that was some goaltending in the NCAA final game. Way to go Hockey East... made quick work of my guys in the CCHA.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 11:56AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey Sieve!

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 11:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Whoops he's gone. Well as an ex-ECACer myself, I say Go East!!

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 12:00AM PST (-0700 GMT)
...I always thought college hockey so much more exciting than the pros. Recall SRO at our little rink at COrnell, the guys played maybe 35-30 games a year, the level may not have been that awesome but the intensity was outta sight. Like NHL playoffs every game.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 8:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
3 games tomorrow. First one actually matters. Playing for #1 seed in the playoffs and a first round matchup with a team we consistently dominate. Second game is for 2nd or 3rd seed, which really doesn't matter since we all have home rink advantage. Third game at 10:10 PM!!! Meaningless. We are locked in as the #4 seed regardless. Actually glad to be there, The #1 seed is undefeated with 2 ties. Yep, the two times they played us. We got our butts kicked by the #2 and #3 seeds all season long. 4 of 4 teams made playoffs. 4th team (defending champs) started 1-4 and had to win 4 of our last 5 to make the playoffs. So what are we doing. Taking the moral victory and forfeiting the playoff game.

gbfreeman: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 9:01PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The league we play in (roller) requires us to pay $75 dollars for each round of the playoffs (single elimination). The Championship is gratis. Since we have had only 4 skaters and moi showing up we feel that $15 dollars to play each of 2 rounds of playoffs is kind of steep and we're not gonna do it. My three other teams have better turnouts, one less round of playoffs, and haven't won a title yet. Three playoff games on Thursday. Luckily I have Friday off to recuperate. Later. Smott, keep fighting P.S. Finally got some pics of myself in my Battram gear. You can see it at button

fourqts: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 9:45PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GB is looking in the batt roller pads I do believe.... Nice!!! as for me I've got a hockeyless two weeks here as I'm in the wonderful city of munster indiana for the next two weeks..... I did see a target but nix on any hockey.... sux to be me.... and I miss the yotes sharks tomorrow.... for which i had 3rd row right behind the boolin wall..... shucks!!!! but my fiancee and mom will go and howl the night away.... And what a pickup richle (sp) seems to have been.... man he and the yotes second line are hot!!!!1

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 9:54PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Gbfreeman----- You play against a team called "Who's your daddy"? Isn't that a trip!..... C5----- I used the "curtis curve" yesterday. It was good for stopping pucks, but poke checking and shooting it wasn't good at all.....(everyone)..... The coach of the Chicago Freeze of the NAHL(Jr.A) is sending me a try-out information packet. Just want to know if I've done everything I can do? I have a gut feeling that my stance/style isn't going to work or something. A weird feeling, like I should be playing better. Maybe it's because I had a bad practice yesterday(Kinda hard to play good when all your coach runs are breakaway and 2 on 0 drills). Although I am not much of a practice person. It's hard to get focused for a practice. That game is where I shine my brightessed. Goaltending is 90% mental..... Is there any "tricks of the trades" I can use? Like things I can do off the ice to improve reflexes and eye hand coordination. I play video games, a lot of street hockey, etc. What else can I do..... I want to be in the best condition for the try-outs. I have four years left of Juniors left. So I need to act fast..... I am looking to improve my fundementals of the game. How can I do that? I need some good drills that my coach can run in practice that will improve my game a lot. Thanks.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Mon, Apr 5, 9:57PM PST (-0700 GMT)
One other thing..... What do you think they will run in practice? Besides a scrimmage what kind of drills will that run? So I can be prepared for it..... Anyone here ever been to a try-out like this before? Any comments? Thanks.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 6:12AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Fourqts, welcome to the land of my youth. Check out Munster burger for a really good (though greasy) hamburger. Hi House in Lake Station makes a really good Broasted chicken. And the Rosewood (or Roselawn) cafe in Portage makes a killer Ham Salad sandwich. My parents live in Highland Indiana.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 6:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, I can only speak of the MLRH tryout I went to. It was mostly free form warm up sessions to begin. Then the players were broken up into 4 teams, 2 teams took the surface while the other 2 observed. After your 20 minute period you had to wait for the other scrimmage to finish. Teams were then reorganized and the process began again. If a 20 minute period ended in a tie a shootout was held. Faced 6 shots in shootout and stopped 5. Then they announced who made the elite games later that day. Didn't make it even though most people felt I played well enough to make it. Oh well, guess that is one of the handicaps of trying to become a 32 year old rookie.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 8:52AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I'm also wondering if there is any endurance secrets? They have some "energy pills" at my local Golds Gym. I am wondering if I should try them..... Is there anyway I can get more energy/stanima/endurance or whatever through a pill/drug/drink or whatever? There are a lot of energy drinks out there. What about "Red Bull"? Also those small cans of drinks at 7-11. They are labeled "energy", "anti-ox", etc. What about those? What about supplements? Like creatine? I guess I am looking for that extra edge..... any comments?

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 12:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, I can give you the information regarding the Hansens drinks from first hand experience. I drink a can of Energy before games and if I have more that one game I also drink a can of Stamina. They seem to improve my awareness and reflexes. Energy can (like some other Ginseng products) cause nervousness. Antiox is supposed to have Anti Oxident qualities. From what I understand, this deals with the natural aging of cell matter and would not have any short term benefits. Sobe Energy and Zen Blend seem to work for me also.

CrankHead: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 12:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Crystal Meth can give you a quick energy boost.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 2:03PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GH, it has been my experience that most camps USUALLY run some what the same. A coach will have anywhere from 4-6 goalies show up for camp. While it does help to have a good camp the thing to remember is that it's the way you've already played/numbers that got you invited in the first place. The coach or one of his stooges either checked you out or has heard promising things about you and want's to see if you fit into the puzzle that makes up the team. During the camp the coach is going to be busy assesing players and lines both O and D to determine what and who works best. This usually is explained a little in the locker room and then may be breif instructions on the dry erase board on ice. It will basically be for players, ie:white is on the power play black killing with D in red(or any combo similar). His instructions to you will probablly be which net he wants you in and thats about it. Don't be surprised if you don't get much direction at all, the coach is devoting most of his time to picking players. At certain points in the camp he will start looking at the goalies to see how they are working out and who is looking strong, this is usually after he has an idea of his lines and wants to test drive them. This can be good and bad because if your in the net against his first choice line you may have the less organized or weaker players in front of you and it can be nerve racking. The bottom line is don't out think yourself, don't change anything in the way you play, play your game and don't count the goals......Goals HAPPEN. If this camp is the most important thing to you it will reflect in your play and your effort. If for some reason the coach releases you it doesn't mean your no good, it's just that you might not fit into the team he has planned. Look at all the Big time guys who were shown the door before they found a team they fit in on. There is no way anyone, me included can tell what to expect at any camp, each coach is different as is each camp. Take from it all the good things you learned and add them to your game and work on the weak points of your game as well. My biggest piece of advice is to tell you to stay Hydrated and get plenty to eat. 2 a day practices will wear you out quick and it's easy to fall behind on both food and water. All of the camps I've been to provided big spreads of food for the players, 3 hots and a cot. Don't go gobbling a bunch of wiz bang products that claim to make you better. It's been my experience that they don't live up to their claims and in some cases can be detrimental. The way your body handles certain products will be different from the next guy, if you haven't been using it or used it before then trying something new in camp is a bad idea. The only things I've found that really work(this is for me now) is Creatine and Andro-6 and a multi vitamin. I know some people get cramps easier when on creatine and can't use it, I don't have this problem so I use it . It sounds like your trying to run the race before it's started. Just calm down and do what you always do.....play hockey . Thats the big secret and thats what it's all about...playing hockey. There is nothing in a can or anything anyone can tell you that can predict how YOUR camp will be. Be sure to have fun too, don't let yourself get wrapped too tight since it will effect your play as well. Good luck

GoalieHawk: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 3:15PM PST (-0700 GMT)
gbfreeman----- What do you mean? The drink can make you nervous? How? Also, what is the anti-ox drink? What is it and what does it do?..... Carpe De Puck----- Thanks for the advice..... About supplements. My mom doesn't want me to take them because she feels it will cause side affets in the future(liver damage, cancer, etc). I've heard a lot about creatine and I've heard it works and it is safe. I asked my sports medicane doctor and he said it was fine for me to use it..... I don't feel like paying $50+ every two weeks for some good creatine. So how can I get the energy I need the natural way? What are the best foods that are proven to work. Like pasta and stuff. Like I said I am looking for that extra edge..... What should I do and shouldn't do in the try-outs? Before a Jr.Hawk try-out a guy told me they look for guys that come out of the net and challenge a lot. Things like that. Things that I should know..... Thanks.

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 3:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, go to www.hansens.com click on "Our products" and click on Functional Drinks for information on all of the different drinks in their line

gbfreeman: . . . . Tue, Apr 6, 3:33PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Also, by nervous I meant kinda hyper

J.T.: . . . . Wed, Apr 7, 10:21AM PST (-0700 GMT)
As far as drinks/supplements/etc etc etc go, there's a big theory in endurance sports now (for anyone who doesn't know I've done the Ironman more than a couple times) that the single most emportant thing for alert, improved maximum performance is a well balanced diet. Cut out the chemicals and crap, and just eat lots of fruits, vegetables, grains, non-fatty meats and fish, etc. Eat close to the earth. I personally still think a good multivitamin helps too. I tend to get a bit superstitious, but I find Metabolol Endurance by Champion Nutrition to be a great pre-workout drink. You'll need a blender, but it's a good balance, and if you blend it with some fruit it'll perk you up quite a bit. In short though, there's no magic pill.

Sieve: . . . . Wed, Apr 7, 11:22AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hey smott, my paper says that Ulfie and the Murph may be a duo again by this weekend. sound familiar???

z-man: . . . . Wed, Apr 7, 11:51AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I always feel good on the ice and I think that it is due to my diet. I eat no meat at all and try to avoid cheese or other proteins for the 8 hours before the game and I eat carbs like pasta, bread, and potatoes 2 hours before and sometimes a little small chocolate bar or other sugar (not in a soda though) in the hour before. I don't have any endurance problems but I agree that you must eat enough and really pay attention to the water bottle to keep from getting subtle dehydration, which can make it hard to focus. Also, I just ordered an Itech Profile 9100 helmet, anyone have one of these? I got a screaming deal on it.

Goal35: . . . . Wed, Apr 7, 12:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
good to hear things are going well smott.... and don't sweat the hair thing, us guys get it naturally.... am on a 2 week layoff till spring/summer starts... but have p/u this week and they league has me as one of the goalie on the 2 player ratings skates they have...

GoalieHawk: . . . . Wed, Apr 7, 8:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... Tried that drink. Called "energy". Tasted good and I think it worked a little bit..... I talked to some of the Portland Winterhawks that I know at my school. Found out I can't practice for them because I'm not on the protected list. Which pisses me off because I know I am better than some of those guys on the list. A guy who plays for the Jr.Hawks Midget A team might play for them next year. He is the teams best player. Haven't seem him play but I heard he was very good. He is 6'3" 200 something..... Just because I'm not play Midget A for the Jr.Hawks doesn't mean I'm not good enough. I didn't pay my in to the game like those guys, I earned it.

z-man: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 7:32AM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, what do you think of Cody Rudkowsky? He was signed by the Blues for $825,000 each year for 3 years with a $1mil bonus at signing.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 8:23AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man----- I've seen Cody Rudkowsky play a lot in the past couple of seasons. One reason I like Cody is because of his amazing puck handling skills. Last year in the warm up he would fire a puck over the glass to almost the top level of the Memorial Colisuem. His backhand is almost has good as his forehand shot..... He is very flexible and he is a hard worker. His style is pretty good too. He is pretty much a butterfly goalie that does whatever it takes to stop the puck..... He shutout the Winterhawks in a few games this year too.

z-man: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 9:16AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I saw the TBirds and Hawks in the Rose Garden this year and the Winterhawks won 6-0 or 7-0. Both teams were down to like 7 or 8 players total from fights and Rudkowsky was skating to the blue line and firing the puck down ice itching to fight LaBarbara. Do they play at Mountain View in Vancouver? For that matter, do they mostly live and attend school in Washington? That's what I heard when I lived in Portland a couple years ago. Now I live somewhat near Seattle and see more Thunderbirds games.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 4:41PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Z-man----- First a goalie ever did that to me I would get into a fight with him. Cody would have killed Jason. I've seen Jason fight, and that is something he can't do..... The Winterhawks practice at Mountain View. Four of them go to my school. I am kind of friends with them but they are all SO CONCEDED! It's okay, some of them are nice though.

Vile: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 6:28PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Second league game on Monday, I won 5-1 but only faced 8 shots (6 in the final period). Lost the shutout bid with 25 seconds. Still, my numbers are 89% save and GAA 1.00. Just enjoying the whole experience tho...

Vile: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 6:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
The team I played against had 5-6 women, who proceded to out play their male teamates hands down. I asked my defensemen about it, and they agreed. A couple of them were just plain mean.

z-man: . . . . Thu, Apr 8, 9:19PM PST (-0700 GMT)
GoalieHawk, when I lived in Portland I went to Clark College and there was a High School nearby I can't remember which. I lived on Burnside in Portland but went to school in Vancouver because I could lie about my resident status in Washington but in Oregon they checked and would charge me nonresident fees. Anyway, I liked Clark College.

deke: . . . . Fri, Apr 9, 7:42PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Subbed in C last night and lost 6-2. Ever notice how in C league games you often feel like you're out there all by yourself? Of course I did "clear" one from behind up the right boards onto their forward's tape who shot in in the corner before I got back. But I probably wouldn't have been back there if they didn't have a three on one developing.

snowman: . . . . Sat, Apr 10, 9:58AM PST (-0700 GMT)
"C" leagues.....sheesh, they should call them the "No 'D' " league. It seems no matter what team I end up on in "c" this is no knowledge of what to do on defense. I feel more like a coach sometimes. "No....Dont clear the puck up the middle of the ice" oops....sorry about that keep...my fault.

Bungle: . . . . Sat, Apr 10, 10:41AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi anyone play roller hockey here ? I play Junior puck, Junior Ball and Senior puck in Scotland. I also play in goal for the Scotland national team.

C5: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 8:10AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I am back from a week in NYC. Tried to get Rangers tickets but the game was sold out and the scalpers weren't too flexible. Nice to see a team who just might miss the playoffs selling out. Speaking of being back, it's nice to see Hasek back.

C5: Page Update: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 8:11AM PST (-0700 GMT)
And speaking of Hasek, I'm adding some more GREAT pictures to the NHL goalie page today, including some of Aubin, Brodeur, some AWESOME ones of Dafoe, Dunham, Hasek, Irbe, Osgood and on and on. Check out the page. Link below.

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 8:20AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Chats been kind of quiet, everyone must be getting lots of ice time. Looks like the playoffs will be interesting if not similar to last seasons. I'm curious to see how far Carolina will make it as well as Dallas. I've been talking to Miska and I should have pictures of my mask by next week (knock on wood). I'm really tired of the loaner mask and just want my mask back. It's funny how you can get attached to a piece of equipment some times.

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi guys la hairless femme smottsie resurfacing after a rough second round of chemo last Wednesday. Take my word fellas I don't recommend this toxic chemicals in your bloodstream stuff to anybody. Oh well. I am able to eat today, and enjoyed my Pens thumpwhacking the Rental Red Wings 3-0. TB returns from his broken hand and pitches a cheerio. Pens played very well for a change - they do have to hang on to that 6th playoff spot!

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:31PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Unfortunately not up to my C playoff game tonight. Hate to miss it, but when your exhausted just getting off the couch for more water I'm guessing that ice hockey's out of the question. Hope the guys win - if so, finals will be next Sunday and I should be up for that.

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Oh, and a referee question perhaps for our Meister of the Rulebook Grass.

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:34PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Finishing SHellack playoffs last Tuesday, playing the other loser's bracket for the all important 5th out of 6 place finish. Strangely we play to a 4-4 tie. No score in 5 min OT. So we go to the shootout. Out of 5 shooters we score 1, they score 1. Then the refs say "Game over!" Other team wins, ref says because they had the better reg-season record. I'm thinking - "then why did we play an OT or have a shootout??"

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:35PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Funny thing is the other goalie did not want to quit. (Maybe he just had to beat the scrawny bald chick at the other end?...) Refs leave the ice. Other team sends a shooter, I stone him. Their guy stones our guy, still tied. Zamboni guy shuts off the lights. We all go home.

smott: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 7:36PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Kind of funny, but I was expecting them to keep goign with the shootout until teh game was decided. Any ideas on this one?? Or did the refs just want to go have a beer?

gbfreeman: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 9:06PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smott, if they went through the shootout to decide, they should have gone to the sudden death shootout. Played my first Ice game ever tonight, we lost 7-4. Gave up 5 goals in the first period (where I was still worrying about my skating) and then only 2 the rest of the way. Teammates said I played well even though I didn't think so. The first time I laced up ice skates in 22 years. Guess it is like riding a bike, you never forget. Anyway, had a BLAST!!! Gonna be kind of hard to feel the same excitement at Roller this week. Three playoff games on Thursday.

C5: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 9:12PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Smottie, I have heard of this. It sucks. It's like you go into the game spotting the other team a few goals. Yes, Barasso looked mighty mighty tonight, but they were a lot of outside shots, but still he managed to make some good, solid stops. Tell me again-- who makes Barasso's pads? I want a pair, and I'm serious. Ozzie wants that one goal he let in off his right skate back, bad. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ozzie needs to get around the crease better. He seems to want to glide everywhere.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 9:24PM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hey goalies..... After a long season my team is the State Champions. We won all our playoff games including the one tonight which was winner take all for the chamionship. We won 7-2. I lost the shutout with about ten minutes left in the 3rd period. The day before I shut them out 5-0..... I also picked up a penalty in this game for slashing..... When the buzzer sounded all the guys threw off their gloves and raced over to me. It was a great feeling. The other team was very good, but we played a solid game and won the game. We all got to hold the trophy and we all got medals. When they called up my name to get the medal everyone in the stands went crazy. About 50 people were at the game..... I finished the playoffs 6-0-0, 1.66 GAA, .924 SAVE%, 1 SHUTOUT, 3 PIMS..... Finished the entire season 21-0-0, 2.09 GAA, .911 GAA, 3 SHUTOUTS, 3 PIMS..... This was a great season.

GoalieHawk: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 9:27PM PST (-0700 GMT)
By the way..... About the 5-0 shut out I mentioned..... A few hours before the game my dad told me my grandma died the day before. I was pretty sad but my dad was really sad, because now both his parents have died..... After the game my dad was so proud of me. I told him that the game was for grandma, and he began to tear up..... So the shut out was extra special for me.

fourqts: . . . . Sun, Apr 11, 11:32PM PST (-0700 GMT)
bad news in arizona folks.... my trip to munster indiana may put me on the sidelines for six weeks..... dicided to play a little basket ball with my co workers instead of my weight and stair master workout one night..... End up going knee to knee with one of them driving the whole.... I see the Doc tomorrow.... Have been limping ever since....

Carpe de Puck: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 3:02AM PST (-0700 GMT)
I know of more people getting hurt playing volley ball and basket ball than any other sport, even where contact IS expected. You have to stop playing those dangerous ballsports 4qts LOL!!

Papillon: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 5:17AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi Guys. Does anyonw know the rules in the NHL about pucks hitting the goalies mask. In the UK when the puck deflects from the mask in to the net, then its a goal otherwise the play is whistled down. But I watched a couple of NHL games on tape from last month and play seemed to continue after hitting the goalies mask.

Sieve: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 5:26AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5, you want a pair of those things? I think they said some guy in Boston makes them. Looks like TB just got himself a new pair. I'm sure smott will know the guys name.

Tripp: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:38AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Hi all. Just got back from NYC and thought I'd check in. Down to a slender 6', 121 lbs. I'm an X-ray with skin and hair. Looks like I've got a lot of catching up to do! Once I can sit upright for more than 5 minutes, I'll get on it. I hope everyone's doing well.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:42AM PST (-0700 GMT)
HI TRIPP!

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Dear Lord, you weigh less than I do!! I thought 125 lbs was near-death (it sure felt like it) but 121??? BULK UP MAN!

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:43AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Oh rats, missed him.

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:45AM PST (-0700 GMT)
C5 - Barrasso's pads are made by a fellow named Smith in Buffalo. You may be able to track him down by contacting the Pens?....But beware, those pads are madein the old Vic mold, and they are not esepcially for a fly goalie. More for the convential style. ALso they give nuclear powered rebounds, don't count on smothering too many pucks with these pads. But they're very light, and they look awesome, in a lived-in sort of way! :-D

smott: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 8:47AM PST (-0700 GMT)
Papillon in the States & Canada (and I thought everywhere) play goes on when the puck hits the mask. Why would they stop play for that unless it's a goal?

Sieve: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 9:05AM PST (-0700 GMT)
hi smott, yep, Buffalo, that was it. Cripes Tripp, what is your normal playing weight? Try not to go outside, stiff breeze might carry you away... : >) Good health/recovery to you both.

snowman: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 12:18AM PST (-0700 GMT)
here is a good one.......I just received a call to do the commentating on the TV broadcast of one of our leagues PO game...I guess since we were eliminated I was assumed "available" unfortunately I have to work the evening they need a commentator.

JAKE: . . . . Mon, Apr 12, 1:30PM PST (-0700 GMT)
LADIES and GENTLEMEN of the CHAT some news from the frozen north! An Alaskan womens team won the Senior B Women's Championship in Rockville MD. About half of the women on the winning team play on the team that i play with in our B division men's league. Not that i had anything to do with their win, but, i thought that i'd brag on my team mates.